Submitted by Omrow on 14 September, 2006 - 19:09 #62
Top American Professors doubt that Arabs carried out 9/11 attacks:
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[b]Fury as academics claim 9/11 was 'inside job'[/b]
6th September 2006
The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an "inside job", according to a group of leading academics.
Around 75 top professors and leading scientists believe the attacks were puppeteered by war mongers in the White House to justify the invasion and the occupation of oil-rich Arab countries.
The claims have caused outrage and anger in the US which marks the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attacks on Monday.
But leading scientists say the facts of their investigations cannot be ignored and say they have evidence that points to one of the biggest conspiracies ever perpetrated.
Professor Steven Jones, who lectures in physics at the Brigham Young University in Utah, says the official version of events is the biggest and most evil cover up in history.
He has joined the 9/11 Scholars for Truth whose membership includes up to 75 leading scientists and experts from universities across the US.
Prof Jones said: "We don't believe that 19 hijackers and a few others in a cave in Afghanistan pulled this off acting alone.
"We challenge this official conspiracy theory and, by God, we're going to get to the bottom of this."
In essays and journals, the scientists are giving credence to many of the conspiracy theories that have circulated on the internet in the past five years.
They believe a group of US neo-conservatives called the Project for a New American Century, set on US world dominance, orchestrated the 9/11 attacks as an excuse to hit Iraq, Afghanistan and later Iran.
The group says scientific evidence over the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon is conclusive proof.
Professor Jones said it was impossible for the twin towers to have collapsed in the way they did from the collision of two aeroplanes.
He maintains jet fuel does not burn at temperatures high enough to melt steel beams and claims horizontal puffs of smoke seen during the collapse of the towers are indicative of controlled explosions used to bring down the towers.
The group also maintains World Trade Centre 7 - a neighbouring building which caught fire and collapsed later in the day - was only partially damaged but had to be destroyed because it housed a clandestine CIA station.
Professor James Fetzer, 65, a retired philosopher of science at the University of Minnesota, said: "The evidence is so overwhelming, but most Americans don't have time to take a look at this."
The 9/11 Commission dismissed the numerous conspiracy theories after its exhaustive investigation into the terror attacks.
Subsequent examinations of the towers' structure have sought to prove they were significantly weakened by the impact which tore off fire retardant materials and led the steel beams bending under heat and then collapsing.
Christopher Pyle, professor of constitutional law at Mt Holyoake College in Massachusetts, has dismissed the academic group.
He said: "To plant bombs in three buildings with enough bomb materials and wiring? It's too huge a project and would require far too many people to keep it a secret afterwards.
"After every major crisis, like the assassinations of JFK or Martin Luther King, we've had conspiracy theorists who come up with plausible scenarios for gullible people. It's a waste of time."
But University of Wisconsin assistant professor, Kevin Barrett, said experts are unwilling to believe theories which don't fit into their belief systems.
He said: "People will disregard evidence it if causes their faith to be shattered. I think we were all shocked. And then, when the voice of authority told us what happened, we just believed it."
As the fifth anniversary approached, the 9/11 Scholars for Truth is urging Congress to reopen the investigation claiming they have amassed a wealth of scientific evidence to prove their version of the terror attacks.
Submitted by TEX on 17 September, 2006 - 19:22 #63
did anybody watch the interview about the last man out on the islam channel?
what did you think of it?
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Submitted by TEX on 18 September, 2006 - 15:50 #64
People knew about 9/11 inside the CIA, FBI and other agencies as their CEO's sold their stocks in Americain Airlines, and other companies were the shares crashed after 9/11. These CEO's and topman of CIA, FBI and secret Service all were people who had worked in the Banking world. All of these people knew about 9/11 before it happened, as they sold their stocks. Vargas, a computer company, had the job to see if certain damaged hard disks obtained from the Twin Towers crash site still could be checked for information. On these harddisks it clearly showed that people sold their stocks in such amounts and specific companies, they had to know 9/11 was coming. The US Government was warned about terrorists planning such a thing as 9/11 years before it happened. They ignored this in a suspicious way.Building 7 is clearly done by demolition as stated by the demolition expert. They show him the footage of building 7 collapsing and he says immediately that is exactly what he meant with be blown up from the bottom. You can clearly see that the bottom of the building is destroyed and that the whole weight of the building comes down after it. When told this happened 7 minutes after the Twin Towers he doesn't believe it, he asks it 3 times if it happened on 9/11. When finally convinced he says: 'Well this is clearly suspicious as this building is for a 100% blown up through demolition, it is blown up by explosions put there to tear down the building.'
Brainwashed amercian zionists are not welcomed to give there opionion on the above
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Submitted by TEX on 18 September, 2006 - 15:54 #65
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
[url=http://www.christianpatriot.com/]These[/url] are the same people you linked as your source in the last post. I recommend you should take a long look, followed by a long shower. And then Shabbat Shalom.
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[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
It was a very sustained assault on "zionists", for which he has some quite unique definitions and some not so unique accusations. I found it a very interesting read and if you do check it out I beg you to consider it from the perspective that the author is a classic antisemite who moves me to tears with his libellous narrative. If you are interested I am making it a project of mine over the next year or so to get to the bottom of this kind of thing. Usually it is accompanied by blood libels and the like but he has not been so stupid.
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[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
It was a very sustained assault on "zionists", for which he has some quite unique definitions and some not so unique accusations. I found it a very interesting read and if you do check it out I beg you to consider it from the perspective that the author is a classic antisemite who moves me to tears with his libellous narrative.
litrally to tears? :?
dude i is sorry, i did not read it, i saw the pic, got excited and then posted it.
Quote:
If you are interested I am making it a project of mine over the next year or so to get to the bottom of this kind of thing.
what type of thing
9/11 conspiracy theories?
Zionism "propaganda"?
Quote:
Usually it is accompanied by blood libels and the like but he has not been so stupid.
huh :?
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Another ridiculous thread exculpating bin Laden - it's like a hobby for some people
anybody who disagrees with america is a binladin lover
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Muslims are paraniod. they need to get over lamo conspiracy theories. :roll:
Yup
nope non-muslims are paranoid :roll:
MORE non-muslims then muslim beleive in them :shock:
those 75 proffessors that sed 9/11 was an inside job are paranoid too :roll:
Lilsis u may not believe in the consparicy theories but what about the official version? dont u think its far-fetched?
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Submitted by Seraphim on 9 October, 2006 - 17:55 #76
"TEX" wrote:
"Odysseus" wrote:
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
Muslims are paraniod. they need to get over lamo conspiracy theories. :roll:
Yup
nope non-muslims are paranoid :roll:
MORE non-muslims then muslim beleive in them :shock:
those 75 proffessors that sed 9/11 was an inside job are paranoid too :roll:
Lilsis u may not believe in the consparicy theories but what about the official version? dont u think its far-fetched?
sound to me like everyone is paranoid... this is a conspiracy, that is a conspiracy... you're just not happy until theres a good conspiracy theory going around are you?
but the offical version is so bad it takes the p***!
the Iraq lies were the worst :shock:
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
saddam was a secular, matarialistic, un-godly person and was NEVER KNOWN TO PRAY TO ALLAH.
they were claimed he was `linked` to al-qaeeda
Alqaeeda was the opposite of what he was, they hated secular things, they were not matearilistic at all, and they completely renounced all worldly things including essentiol needs, they were truly religios (even tho thier interpretation of the islam was from the devil himself; to use omrows words)....
i cant `see` the link
maybe i'm missing something?
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
saddam was a secular, matarialistic, un-godly person and was NEVER KNOWN TO PRAY TO ALLAH.
Actually at the time of the first Iraq war, I am certain there being some propaganda clips of him praying...
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
he was never known to pray to god on a regular basis
when he did it was all for show
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
from a documentry about saddam that came on years ago
twas VERY interesting
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
it showed his billion and one mansions and his billions of mansions that were built [u]under the ground[/u]...
the amount of money that was spent on those mansions could prolly be enuff to wipe out poverty forever!!
it was sickning to see him living like that while his people ware starving :x
there were loads of other things... but i cant be bothered to type it all up
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Why would America want to kill its own ppl, set back its economy, especially in New York just to control the worlds oil supply?
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[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Who so ever participated in 9/11, they shall surely pay for their sins.
The blame game can go on for centuries. It does not change the fact that non assuming Muslims felt a storm rage against them in 'revenge' for an atrocity they did not commit.
The shape the world has taken and the distorted view it has of Islam is our own doing. Nobody else’s but ours. How do we undo this? Allow Islam into our lives. Once the young men of Islam conform the women will follow suit. This accomplished the world will look on our communities as pillars.
You want non-Muslims to become Muslims? Then become one yourself!
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He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 26 July, 2007 - 14:19 #89
"TEX" wrote:
Why would America want to kill its own ppl, set back its economy, especially in New York just to control the worlds oil supply?
Those that profit from conspiracy theories trade in conspiracy theories.
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[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
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Top American Professors doubt that Arabs carried out 9/11 attacks:
Also:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,,1868479,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304,00.html
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml;jsessionid=P5FJUWKJSMR3HQFIQM...
did anybody watch the interview about the last man out on the islam channel?
what did you think of it?
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
People knew about 9/11 inside the CIA, FBI and other agencies as their CEO's sold their stocks in Americain Airlines, and other companies were the shares crashed after 9/11. These CEO's and topman of CIA, FBI and secret Service all were people who had worked in the Banking world. All of these people knew about 9/11 before it happened, as they sold their stocks. Vargas, a computer company, had the job to see if certain damaged hard disks obtained from the Twin Towers crash site still could be checked for information. On these harddisks it clearly showed that people sold their stocks in such amounts and specific companies, they had to know 9/11 was coming. The US Government was warned about terrorists planning such a thing as 9/11 years before it happened. They ignored this in a suspicious way.Building 7 is clearly done by demolition as stated by the demolition expert. They show him the footage of building 7 collapsing and he says immediately that is exactly what he meant with be blown up from the bottom. You can clearly see that the bottom of the building is destroyed and that the whole weight of the building comes down after it. When told this happened 7 minutes after the Twin Towers he doesn't believe it, he asks it 3 times if it happened on 9/11. When finally convinced he says: 'Well this is clearly suspicious as this building is for a 100% blown up through demolition, it is blown up by explosions put there to tear down the building.'
Brainwashed amercian zionists are not welcomed to give there opionion on the above
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
TEX,
[url=http://www.christianpatriot.com/]These[/url] are the same people you linked as your source in the last post. I recommend you should take a long look, followed by a long shower. And then Shabbat Shalom.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
dude i did not read it
i just looked at the picture
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
It was a very sustained assault on "zionists", for which he has some quite unique definitions and some not so unique accusations. I found it a very interesting read and if you do check it out I beg you to consider it from the perspective that the author is a classic antisemite who moves me to tears with his libellous narrative. If you are interested I am making it a project of mine over the next year or so to get to the bottom of this kind of thing. Usually it is accompanied by blood libels and the like but he has not been so stupid.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
litrally to tears? :?
dude i is sorry, i did not read it, i saw the pic, got excited and then posted it.
what type of thing
9/11 conspiracy theories?
Zionism "propaganda"?
huh :?
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
People accusing the Jews of being provocative and domineering during and between the wars and tying into a contemporary narrative.
I had better get home and finish the succah.
[size=10]I feel I'm gonna move on back down south
you know where the water tastes like cherry wine[/size]
The so-called anti-zionist propaganda may have left u in tears
but [url=http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7558999542414492999&q=lebanon]this video[/url] left me in tears.
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
For Newbie:
What were the motives behind 9/11?
how did da american government "benefit" from it?
anybody else can reply to it too.
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
read previous posts (on the first couple of pages) i can't be bothered to type it all again
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
anybody who disagrees with america is a binladin lover
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
nope non-muslims are paranoid :roll:
MORE non-muslims then muslim beleive in them :shock:
those 75 proffessors that sed 9/11 was an inside job are paranoid too :roll:
Lilsis u may not believe in the consparicy theories but what about the official version? dont u think its far-fetched?
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
sound to me like everyone is paranoid... this is a conspiracy, that is a conspiracy... you're just not happy until theres a good conspiracy theory going around are you?
Back in BLACK
yup
but the offical version is so bad it takes the p***!
the Iraq lies were the worst :shock:
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
about the weapons of mass destruction?
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
no.
saddam was a secular, matarialistic, un-godly person and was NEVER KNOWN TO PRAY TO ALLAH.
they were claimed he was `linked` to al-qaeeda
Alqaeeda was the opposite of what he was, they hated secular things, they were not matearilistic at all, and they completely renounced all worldly things including essentiol needs, they were truly religios (even tho thier interpretation of the islam was from the devil himself; to use omrows words)....
i cant `see` the link
maybe i'm missing something?
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Actually at the time of the first Iraq war, I am certain there being some propaganda clips of him praying...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
he was never known to pray to god on a regular basis
when he did it was all for show
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
and you know this...?
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
from a documentry about saddam that came on years ago
twas VERY interesting
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
wat else did it say?
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
maaan it was SO GOOD...
it showed his billion and one mansions and his billions of mansions that were built [u]under the ground[/u]...
the amount of money that was spent on those mansions could prolly be enuff to wipe out poverty forever!!
it was sickning to see him living like that while his people ware starving :x
there were loads of other things... but i cant be bothered to type it all up
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
i bet the iraqi's destroyed them
Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
Why would America want to kill its own ppl, set back its economy, especially in New York just to control the worlds oil supply?
[color=red]"The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [Tirmidhî, Sahîh] [/color]
Who so ever participated in 9/11, they shall surely pay for their sins.
The blame game can go on for centuries. It does not change the fact that non assuming Muslims felt a storm rage against them in 'revenge' for an atrocity they did not commit.
The shape the world has taken and the distorted view it has of Islam is our own doing. Nobody else’s but ours. How do we undo this? Allow Islam into our lives. Once the young men of Islam conform the women will follow suit. This accomplished the world will look on our communities as pillars.
You want non-Muslims to become Muslims? Then become one yourself!
He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition, burns a picture to obtain the ashes!
to create a new world order
good 9/11 vids:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1336167662031629480&q=9%2F11+Pai...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-751298171535560228&q=the+ultima...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8129564295534231536&q=9%2F11+my...
Those that profit from conspiracy theories trade in conspiracy theories.
[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]
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