The split second wait before the page starts loading? or does it start loading, then take ages for certain elements?
If you mean the first one, that is because the pages are not chached. A fresh page is loaded everytime, with fresh queries to the database. The queries can take time. The only way to reduce that is by caching, which has benefits and drawbacks.
If you mean after starting to load it takes a while, which elements? if its the avatars and linked images, then it depends where the avatar/image is from. Could be from here or some other site. I cannot control speed of other sites.
Thirdly there could be a problem with your connection, but if here is the only place that is noticing it, then that is unlikely (but still possible).
So details please. (I know these forums are a sploit second slower than the older ones. IMO that is due to the queries not being cached.)
Oh and you would probablymake a good 'stresstester' for the new site once I am ready to show it to the world.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Should I replace the current logo with the new one? Is it better? worse?
and if anyone says they cannot see a diference, I shall stab them with a spoon! (yes, I am pretty slow at doing actual graphic work. Not one of my strengths...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ok, I have updated the logo at the top of the page now.
Unfortunately it looks more professional than the rest of the site!
It does look rather sunny though.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
DOes it start loading, and then take ages? how long does it take? does it wait a split second, and then start loading pretty quickly?
Is this the only site where that happens? is it forums only or full website?
Quote:
looks good
Thanks
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
For me it takes around 0.2-0.4 seconds for a full page to load... SO are you experiencing the same thing with other sites?
Are you using firefox? you downloading anything at the same time?
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
the revival yeh.. its gotta reflect the meaning.. i.e reviving the muslim Ummah.. somthing fresh.. like the light at the end of the tunnel sort of thing..
i wouldn't worry about pages loading slowly. as your dev sites quite new, it could be something as simple as caching.
the way it works is that browsers send requests to the web server. the web server consrtucts the pages and then sends it through and keeps a cached copy. the more people who visit the faster it gna be.. i think.
Ideally you should be using number 2 or 3 just for overall internet security... and it is easier to hack internet explorer.
If they have any significance on the speed of browsing I have no idea, but Opera renders pages the fastest. Firefox is my favoured browser. Internet explorer is mostly standard on most PC's.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
the revival yeh.. its gotta reflect the meaning.. i.e reviving the muslim Ummah.. somthing fresh.. like the light at the end of the tunnel sort of thing..
I am just basing it off the logo used for the mag. Apart from that if anyone can come up with a really good one, I am willing to nick it!
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i wouldn't worry about pages loading slowly. as your dev sites quite new, it could be something as simple as caching.
the way it works is that browsers send requests to the web server. the web server consrtucts the pages and then sends it through and keeps a cached copy. the more people who visit the faster it gna be.. i think.
I think she is talking about these forums, not the dev site, to which I have not linked yet. (well I removed it from the location to where I had given a link... but its still accessible at a new location.)
The phpbb forums do not have any caching whatsoever on the server side. The wordpress site does, and so will the new site, but phpbb lacks that functionality as far as I am aware.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I have just had the thought that I am currently trying to exchange one set of known issues with another set of unknown issues. And the convenience that is afforded by the conversion I was planning may not be all that convenient.
So I have just decided to stick to what we have atm, but try to improve it instead of how I have let it rot recently.
There are still some hurdles to overcome, but Inshallah we will overcome them.
The idea of converting to an all in one piece of software is still in my mind, but I have ecided top push it back a little, and make it more of an experimental thing to mess around with.
I was of the impression that I would be leaving two hacked together softwares' to one fully integrated, non hacked together one. But to get the little features, nuances I like, I would have to do the same things again, just hacking pieces away, adding others.
Sorry if I got anyones hopes up (which I doubt anyway. I got the impression of alot of people going' again?').
There is still an issue of the forum database, but I will tackle that in a diferent way than I was planning to, with similar results hopefully.
(Some of you may be congratulating me on the return of my sanity!)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
which new logo? :oops: one of the ones on this page, or has it already been used somewhere on the site?
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Submitted by Seraphim on 29 June, 2006 - 09:35 #47
The logo above has been changed to the logo that is second in the ones I showed above. (the first one is the opriginal one...)
Seraph; I will probably stay with phpbb for atleast a while. Need to still overcome the DB problem.
Then when phpbb3 comes out, I will need to decide to move to it, or possibly SMF, which also looks good. Will need to do a 'speed test' or something to see if lilsis is happy with it!
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 29 June, 2006 - 20:48 #49
"Admin" wrote:
The logo above has been changed to the logo that is second in the ones I showed above. (the first one is the opriginal one...)
Seraph; I will probably stay with phpbb for atleast a while. Need to still overcome the DB problem.
Then when phpbb3 comes out, I will need to decide to move to it, or possibly SMF, which also looks good. Will need to do a 'speed test' or something to see if lilsis is happy with it!
What other forum software have you tried?
e.g. Invision Power Boards?
Supposed to be pretty good altho i think they ask for cash. So not free.
The logo above has been changed to the logo that is second in the ones I showed above. (the first one is the opriginal one...)
ah yes, i can only see it when i'm logged out though - probably why i didn't notice it first time round. (when i'm logged in i have the old version).
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
control F5 should reload the logo. Then it will be the new one you see.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Apparently only 12% of the internet population uses a display limited to 800x600.
I need to move on!
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Still being generous, can I have some opinions? Now it is all tabbed in all three major browsers. (which reminds me, I need to test it with the khtml/webcore engine yet...).
However it now looks less 'pretty'. and in internet explorer the rollover is not working properly... but considering how it looked before, I think its a major improvement.
Phase one almost complete. I am pretty happy with the header section.
The oage should fit perfectly on monitors that are at 1024 pixels wide. Can someone confirm? (it may be 10 pixels too wide... I need a confirmation, so that I can make the necessary changes.)
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ok, what do you mean by slow?
The split second wait before the page starts loading? or does it start loading, then take ages for certain elements?
If you mean the first one, that is because the pages are not chached. A fresh page is loaded everytime, with fresh queries to the database. The queries can take time. The only way to reduce that is by caching, which has benefits and drawbacks.
If you mean after starting to load it takes a while, which elements? if its the avatars and linked images, then it depends where the avatar/image is from. Could be from here or some other site. I cannot control speed of other sites.
Thirdly there could be a problem with your connection, but if here is the only place that is noticing it, then that is unlikely (but still possible).
So details please. (I know these forums are a sploit second slower than the older ones. IMO that is due to the queries not being cached.)
Oh and you would probablymake a good 'stresstester' for the new site once I am ready to show it to the world.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Ok last night I did a marathon session working on graphics for the site deign.
As a by product after a few hours of work, I think I can improve the website logo.
[img]http://www.therevival.co.uk/logo/revival_banner.gif[/img] - Old
[img]http://www.therevival.co.uk/logo/revival_shadow.gif[/img] - New
Whaddaya think?
Should I replace the current logo with the new one? Is it better? worse?
and if anyone says they cannot see a diference, I shall stab them with a spoon! (yes, I am pretty slow at doing actual graphic work. Not one of my strengths...)
And the possible logo for the new site if and when it is ever ready:
[img]http://www.therevival.co.uk/logo/logo.png[/img]
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
ok, I have updated the logo at the top of the page now.
Unfortunately it looks more professional than the rest of the site!
It does look rather sunny though.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
looks good
BTW pages take ages to load
WHat do you mean?
DOes it start loading, and then take ages? how long does it take? does it wait a split second, and then start loading pretty quickly?
Is this the only site where that happens? is it forums only or full website?
Thanks
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
havent checked the pages on site yet
basically whenever u click on any page on the forum it takes ages to load and say "done"-page comes up quickly
it dont really take ages-it prob takes 3 seconds-but in the past the page could load in under a second
i have no patience to wait for 3seconds-so i usually open up another site whilst its taking forever to download
For me it takes around 0.2-0.4 seconds for a full page to load... SO are you experiencing the same thing with other sites?
Are you using firefox? you downloading anything at the same time?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
i dont know what fox ur talking about-
and i'm banned frm downloading songs-dad only deleted "limefire" few days ago-cos it slows the computer down
like i said-this slowness is only with ur forum-every other site on the net is OK
3 secs is too long to wait
admin.. hmm.. I dunno about the logo...
the revival yeh.. its gotta reflect the meaning.. i.e reviving the muslim Ummah.. somthing fresh.. like the light at the end of the tunnel sort of thing..
i wouldn't worry about pages loading slowly. as your dev sites quite new, it could be something as simple as caching.
the way it works is that browsers send requests to the web server. the web server consrtucts the pages and then sends it through and keeps a cached copy. the more people who visit the faster it gna be.. i think.
anyways.. have a logo competition on here
I'll start it off
[img]http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3401/therevivallogo7rx.png[/img]
[b][i]Round and round the Ka'bah,
Like a good Sahabah,
One step, Two step,
All the way to jannah[/i][/b]
Another one:
[img]http://www.therevival.co.uk/logo/logofull.png[/img]
Ok so limewire is deleted... and its only this site.
The thing you use to browse the internet... WHat does the logo look like?
1. [img]http://www.gadgetcentre.com/news/images/internet_explorer_logo.jpg[/img]
2. [img]http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/richardwinskill/2005/09/29/firefox-log...
3. [img]http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/photos/00000114-constrain-160x200....
1 is Internet Explorer.
2 is [url=http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/]Firefox[/url].
3 is [url=http://www.opera.com/]Opera Browser[/url].
Ideally you should be using number 2 or 3 just for overall internet security... and it is easier to hack internet explorer.
If they have any significance on the speed of browsing I have no idea, but Opera renders pages the fastest. Firefox is my favoured browser. Internet explorer is mostly standard on most PC's.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I am just basing it off the logo used for the mag. Apart from that if anyone can come up with a really good one, I am willing to nick it!
I think she is talking about these forums, not the dev site, to which I have not linked yet. (well I removed it from the location to where I had given a link... but its still accessible at a new location.)
The phpbb forums do not have any caching whatsoever on the server side. The wordpress site does, and so will the new site, but phpbb lacks that functionality as far as I am aware.
Medievally funky!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
LOL
thankyou for breaking it down for me-how slow do u think i am
we have internet explorer-the first picture
and regarding security we have McAfee SecurityCentre
its ur site and the forum thats slow-just noticed that now
BTW dont like ur second logo-and is it really right to have a diff logo for the mag and site?
I have just had the thought that I am currently trying to exchange one set of known issues with another set of unknown issues. And the convenience that is afforded by the conversion I was planning may not be all that convenient.
So I have just decided to stick to what we have atm, but try to improve it instead of how I have let it rot recently.
There are still some hurdles to overcome, but Inshallah we will overcome them.
The idea of converting to an all in one piece of software is still in my mind, but I have ecided top push it back a little, and make it more of an experimental thing to mess around with.
I was of the impression that I would be leaving two hacked together softwares' to one fully integrated, non hacked together one. But to get the little features, nuances I like, I would have to do the same things again, just hacking pieces away, adding others.
Sorry if I got anyones hopes up (which I doubt anyway. I got the impression of alot of people going' again?').
There is still an issue of the forum database, but I will tackle that in a diferent way than I was planning to, with similar results hopefully.
(Some of you may be congratulating me on the return of my sanity!)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
only noticed the new logo
Looks ACE
so admin can do something eh
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Sure looks like it.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Admin, are we still due to move the forum?
whats going on with that?
Back in BLACK
The logo above has been changed to the logo that is second in the ones I showed above. (the first one is the opriginal one...)
Seraph; I will probably stay with phpbb for atleast a while. Need to still overcome the DB problem.
Then when phpbb3 comes out, I will need to decide to move to it, or possibly SMF, which also looks good. Will need to do a 'speed test' or something to see if lilsis is happy with it!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
What other forum software have you tried?
e.g. Invision Power Boards?
Supposed to be pretty good altho i think they ask for cash. So not free.
Back in BLACK
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
control F5 should reload the logo. Then it will be the new one you see.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Apparently only 12% of the internet population uses a display limited to 800x600.
I need to move on!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Phase one almost complete. I am pretty happy with the header section.
The oage should fit perfectly on monitors that are at 1024 pixels wide. Can someone confirm? (it may be 10 pixels too wide... I need a confirmation, so that I can make the necessary changes.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
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