Man shot in anti-terrorism raid

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[color=indigo][b]A 23-year-old man has been shot by police during a house raid involving 250 officers carried out early on Friday under the Terrorism Act.[/b]

The man, who was later arrested, was taken to a nearby hospital after the search in Forest Gate, east London. His injuries are not life-threatening.A 20-year-old man is also being held at a central London police station.A single shot was fired, according to the Independent Police Complaints Commission which will investigate. The operation was not linked to the London bombings of July 2005, police have said.

The 23-year-old man was arrested in an east London hospital on suspicion of the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism.Police officers in protective clothing have moved into the terraced house in Lansdown Road in what is being described as a "precautionary measure".A white and yellow tent has been set up outside the property.Several people in the house at the time of the raid have been moved to other premises. They have not been arrested.

Lansdown Road, and neighbouring Rothsay Road and Prestbury Road, are all closed.A 14-year-old boy Nimesh Patel, who saw the raid, said police broke in through a window, and then opened the front door.He said the person shot appeared to have a shoulder injury.Another witness said he had seen a man wearing a bloodstained T-shirt being carried out of the house after the raid.In a statement Scotland Yard said there was no evidence of risk to the public in the area."If we believe there is a potential risk, appropriate action will be taken and advice issued," it said.
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Surveillance[/b]

BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw said the raids follow an investigation into international terrorism targeting the UK.Security sources have described the Forest Gate raid as "potentially significant" and said it followed months of surveillance.The raid followed discussions between MI5, the Met's anti-terrorist branch and the Health Protection Agency - which advised on the potential health risks of the raid.

The IPCC, in a statement, said it would use its own investigators to "examine the circumstances surrounding the discharge of a police firearm". Deborah Glass, IPCC commissioner, said: "The incident was referred to the IPCC immediately and investigators were deployed to the scene."An examination of the officers' firearms confirms that a single shot was discharged in circumstances that are currently under investigation."The Civil Aviation Authority says an air exclusion zone has been set up over east London and will be in place for four days.Aircraft are banned from flying over the site below 2,500ft.
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Mixed community[/b]

Residents said Forest Gate was a typical east London "mixed" community with a large number of Bengali and Pakistani families, along with a recent influx of Eastern Europeans.

One neighbour said the operation early this morning had involved "the most police I've seen in my life".Another neighbour said a family lived at the address."They were respectable and nice people and we do not know anything else. They have always been nice to us," she said."They have lived there for a long time. The kids all go to school locally."Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott was briefed on the shooting this morning, his spokesman said.
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Dave — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 13:21

[quote="The Great 100"]:?

Don Karnage, I don't get that at all. Are you calling me gay?[/quote]

I ambiguized your statement...

RuBz — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 15:25

[quote="*DUST*"][quote="RuBz"][quote="The Great 100"]Rubz,

I didn't read anywhere that he's a dealer, has that come from someone reliable?[/quote]

Yea,

Its from his own boyz,

like i sed his known[/quote]
[quote="The Great 100"]although if RuBz is correct we can't have heard the last of it and I don't have sympathy with him.[/quote]
:? i'm sorry rubz, but i think it's disgusting you would spread such things about the brothers (you didn't even specify which one you were referring to). i saw them on the BBC's live coverage of the press conference, and they certainly do not look like drug dealers. yes looks can be deceiving but i'm not going to accept such statements about them which were passed on by gossip. if the claim was true wouldn't the police have found some trace of drugs in the house which they turned upside down in their search for a chemical weapon. :roll:
and 100, even if it was true, how many drug dealers have you heard of whose punishment was to be shot in the chest and kept in police custody without charge?[/quote]

soz yea but ma intention wasnt to spread wateva ur sayin yea all i sed was that their old life was in the hands of drugz and whether they've changed or not i cant say anythin bout that neways soz i didn mean ne harm by it

The Great 100 — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 15:29

RuBz,

I appreciate your good intentions. I should agree with Dust except the brothers were under discussion and you were attempting to establish their innocence so, maybe it's a grey area. Letting us know about the dealing gave your comment credibility.

latifah — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 19:00

[quote="MuslimSister"]I too felt for them after listening to their press statement on BBC news today.

The Met Police apology sounds so lame...that family was treated ruthlessly.

Policemen acting in such a inhumane manner is not something I used to associate with the police from this country.

One would of thought they would have learned from their mistake after unfairly shooting the brazilian guy.[/quote]

It’s not without parallel in recent times. My Irish neighbour told me about the police reaction to the threat of the IRA and the effect it had on the Irish community in the 1970s and 1980s. Police intelligence was flawed and many innocent people were harassed, arrested, beaten and in some cases framed by corrupt police.

I’m not saying that’s happening now but the reaction of British Muslims could be similar to the Irish experience.

The reaction of the Irish in London was to distrust the police and stop co-operating with them, which meant that the very community the police needed onside to stop the IRA were alienated, resulting in further suspicion, dodgy intelligence and more disillusioned young men more likely to support the militants.

Police have a hard job but their intelligence has got to be accurate. And that apology was very grudging.

Beast — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 20:13

[quote="The Great 100"]RuBz,

I appreciate your good intentions. I should agree with Dust except the brothers were under discussion and you were attempting to establish their innocence so, maybe it's a grey area. Letting us know about the dealing gave your comment credibility.[/quote]

Grey area? What's a grey area?

:?

The Great 100 — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 - 20:19

[quote="Beast"][quote="The Great 100"]RuBz,

I appreciate your good intentions. I should agree with Dust except the brothers were under discussion and you were attempting to establish their innocence so, maybe it's a grey area. Letting us know about the dealing gave your comment credibility.[/quote]

Grey area? What's a grey area?

:?[/quote]

As to whether stating information about them in a relevant discussion to back up her authority is justifiable or whether it is plain gossip. A grey area is any situation where the rules are unclear. For instance whether many standard English curses constitute blasphemy as under the commandment not to take God's name in vain.