Love

[quote="MuslimSister"]Salaam

Love has its limitations and when it exceeds these limitations it is described as extreme love/passionate devotions (Ishq).

This extreme love is manifested in the one who loves absolutely everything to do with his beloved.

He loves the street in which his beloved resides; he loves the dogs that roam in his beloved street. He is compelled to love the friends of his beloved, the beloveds of his beloved….and everything/anyone who has any sort of connection with his beloved.

This extreme love was manifested in Hadrat Awais Karni (ra) who broke all his teeth just because he had heard that one tooth of His leader had broke in the battle of Uhud.

Extreme love was manifested in the ones who collected the hair, sweat and fingernails of their Leader (saw).

We all claim to love someone or another, some may even go as far as claiming that their love is extreme…but has anyone ever collected/saved the hair/sweat of the one they claim that they’re extremely in love with?

Some people claim that Islam has no place for extreme love. However when one possesses limited love for their beloved they are ready to give up their wealth and happiness, on the other hand when one possesses extreme love for their Lord they are ready to give up their lives.

This sacrifice is not possible for those whose love is within limits.

Wasalaam[/quote]

i feel that such 'extreme love' does exist in Islam, but it is reserved only for Allah (s.w.t) and the Prophet (s.a.w).

Knowledge of the person whom you love, and obediance to their will.

hhmm interesting, but not surprising.

To love someone and not know anything about them would seem foolish, as that would suggest your not in love with them but 'your' mental image of them.

[quote="Aasiyah"]

i feel that such 'extreme love' does exist in Islam, but it is reserved only for Allah (s.w.t) and the Prophet (s.a.w).[/quote]

I think such extreme love can also be for those who love Allah (swt).

You know, that love that exists between two people for the sake of Allah (swt).

The love that one possesses for another simply and only because their company increases ones love for Allah (swt) and increases their desire to please Him (swt).

The love that blesses one with His shade on the Day of Judgment, as a mark of distinction and honour....

"Extreme love" I think can also be present between such people.

[quote="Omrow"]

I bow when my Lord is angry.
What do I do if my love is upset ?

[/quote]

I've lost you here

please explain

Salam

Would one lover bow before another to please them?

To show our love, we bow to God to please Him.

Yet, it is alledged that He does not allow a man to bow to his beloved wife if she get upset ?

Is that a Contradiction ?

Does He not want men to TRULY love their wives ?

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]

Does He not want men to TRULY love their wives ?

[/quote]

a person dont have to bend in front of another to show that he/she loves them

chocs and flowers are equally as effective

Salam

A bribe rather than submission ?

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

A bribe rather than submission ?

Omrow[/quote]

Yep, a little peace offering if you will.

Just so she knows you havnt 4gotten her.

[quote="Omrow"]To show our love, we bow to God to please Him.

Yet, it is alledged that He does not allow a man to bow to his beloved wife if she get upset ?

Is that a Contradiction ?

Does He not want men to TRULY love their wives ?[/quote]

The love between Allah and His servants is not comparable to that which exists between human beings - Allah loves His creation 70 times more than a mother loves her child, so ofcourse we should bow to Him (alone).... :roll:

Buckari (Volume 1, Book 2, Number 15)

Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "Whoever possesses the following three qualities will have the sweetness (delight) of faith:

1. The one to whom Allah and His Apostle becomes dearer than anything else.

2. Who loves a person and he loves him only for Allah's sake.

3. Who hates to revert to Atheism (disbelief) as he hates to be thrown into the fire."

Salaam

Once Prophet Musa (AS) asked Allah (swt), how he could ever know if He (swt) loved him.

Allah (swt) told him to look in his own heart and if there he found love for Allah (swt) then this meant that Allah (swt) loved him too.

This shows that love for the Almighty surpasses love for other humans.

This is because if one loves another, one will not receive a guarantee that the beloved loves him/her too.

However in the case of love for the Almighty, love is always guaranteed.

Wasalaam

Salam

[quote="Aasiyah"]The love between Allah and His servants is not comparable to that which exists between human beings[/quote]

Asiya.

Ocean is water. So is a drop of water. No difference in nature. H2 O.

Love is love. The AMOUNT of love is another matter.

It is not a DIFFERENT love with which a man loves a woman.

Man might love God with greater quantity of love, but it will still be the SAME love.

Dumb girl !!

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

[quote="Aasiyah"]The love between Allah and His servants is not comparable to that which exists between human beings[/quote]

Asiya.

Ocean is water. So is a drop of water. No difference in nature. H2 O.

Love is love. The AMOUNT of love is another matter.

It is not a DIFFERENT love with which a man loves a woman.

Man might love God with greater quantity of love, but it will still be the SAME love.

Dumb girl !![/quote]
if there is no "nature" of love, then y is the relationship of a man with his wife so different to the relationship with his mother? he loves them both equally, but it is the NATURE of love that is different.

resorting to personal insults just shows u dont have faith in your own argument... its not as if your going to badger me into agreeing, so why bother? :roll:

Salam

Asiya. I can see that you are unloved. Which is why you made the comment that you did.

If you think that love is of many kind then you are not only dumb but also confused.

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

Asiya. I can see that you are unloved. Which is why you made the comment that you did.

If you think that love is of many kind then you are not only dumb but also confused.

Omrow[/quote]

lol, well done omrow, u just proved my point by not having anything to say about it, except (once again) personal insults. no wonder lilsis thinks ur a mouse! 😛

Salam

Asiya. Do you need her support ?

Ok. Let me ask her.

Mediya. Asiya needs a bit of love and support from you.

Omrow

she already has my love and she dont need my suport cos she's doing a fine job as it is

there ARE diff types of loves OK

if u can love ur grandma the same way u can love ur wife then YOUR the confused dumb boy

Salam

I love my Mercedes and I love my sister.

I love her more than the German.

Its the same love.

I just EXPRESS it differently.

FURBALL !!

God !

Omrow

Omrow
Every body here knows who is a homosexual!! It is you!! . Do you know why?. coz you've been crying underneath your woman all the way down. My wife, my wife, my wife and i am mouse mouse mouse!! which kind of real man would want to discuss about the wife in-front of gentlemen!!. Believe me, we know people like you who would mention about their wives in every little things and do you know what they are!!. Gays!! . Because they can not satisfy their women they have to obey them. These types of men can't make it every night and even when they make it it's like in and out within no time. The woman would desire more but unfortunately mouse man don't have to offer her!!.

OK saying things without action is not good enough, let's put a demo, I'll get mouse man one of my girlfriends and let him get me his woman then let the women tell the truth!!. How about this mouse man!! Wouldn't this be something!! Let's see who they will call a real barbarian type!! :cool

Salam

Now that was funny. It showed guts.

You are the first "warrior" who has made me laugh. Congratulations.

I love a brave person who is also an idiot.

By the way, I just hope that you don't push a pram.

Warriors should not disgrace themselves.

Omrow

It's a very unpleasant cultural thingy mocking a man who believes in equality of parents and listening to one's wife. If such men are mice then what do you respect? Apes? Hawks? Bacterial Scum? Oh, 'warriors'. I see a few of those about and they're a bigger, more serious problem than the mice. The truth is most men are just dicks, most of the time, and to watch men argue knowing you're probably going to marry one sometime must be very depressing for the beauties on this forum.

Although I have been browsing the forums and to be fair so are most women.

why does nearly every topic end up in people cussing each other?

Salam

Certain type of "cussing" is considered to be an art form of love in Pakistan.

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

Certain type of "cussing" is considered to be an art form of love in Pakistan.

Omrow[/quote]

I hate to agree with him but the above ^^ is very true.

But last time i checked, we're not in Pakistan.

People resort to cussing coz they're weak and cant come up with a better arguement. Its what politicans do; if they cant win a debate by logic they cuss the other side.

LOL!! mujahid cussing omrow, now that is the funniest thing i ever read!! 😃 😛

[quote="Seraph"]People resort to cussing coz they're weak and cant come up with a better arguement.[/quote]
thanx for reaffirming my point tht omrow is avoiding the discussion through personal insults... 🙂 :roll:

Salam

I bet you would say the same thing to God.

He is no politician, nor does He have weak arguments.

People like Asiya have no real capability of using their intellect.

They hate criticism and so in response come up with stupid illogical replies.

And Seraph. The art form is trans-national.

Infact, its inter-galactic.

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]
And Seraph. The art form is trans-national.

Infact, its inter-galactic.
[/quote]

Perhaps it is 'inter-galactic' as yu said.

But it has no place in a debate.

It carries no point across other than ignorance.

You above all else should know that.

Salam

Yes. That is true. But only when there is a debate taking place.

And since when did I ever debate with girls like Asiya.

The dumb woman is incapable of discussing a serious point.

Omrow

[quote="Omrow"]Salam

Yes. That is true. But only when there is a debate taking place.

And since when did I ever debate with girls like Asiya.

The dumb woman is incapable of discussing a serious point.

Omrow[/quote]

lol your doing it again...i think your the one who cant discuss serious points without having to resolve to personal insults

p.s. thats not a personal insult on my part....just my gatherings from observing this thread lol