Wafa Sultan, an Arab-American psychologist from Los Angeles. I want to know what you all say about her. She is really bashing Islam and also got some crucial points.
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Her second clip
#783 - LA Psychologist Wafa Sultan Clashes with Algerian Islamist Ahmad bin Muhammad over Islamic Teachings and Terrorism
She's just regurgitating what someone from the West would say about Moselms/Ayrabs etc. All her citicisms are from solely that perspective.
It's just the usual broad brush of barbaric primitive oppressive Muslims versus the rational civilised freedom-loving West but expressed loudly and proudly on Arab TV by an Arab athiest woman in America.
This is not much different from what we would hear from Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, etc. Except they would take care to point out exceptions in order not to appear racist.
And 'We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people'??? What planet is this woman on?
The only valid point of substance she makes is at the end of the first clip: The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind before they demand that humankind respect them.
The second clip is just a slanging match.
exactly this women is extremely biased, she should look at both and all perspectives,
btw did you see her hairstlye, she looks like a lesbian
no wonder shes so anti-islamic
i dont see this as a valid point, why must we ask this, why dont we deserve the same respect such as human rights and fair treatment(i.e. guantanamo bay), what has america and israel done to deserve this respect, why dont they answer that question , they have killed more innocent people throughout history than any terrorist organisation, also havent muslims done enough , look at our glorious past , islam has proven throughout history to be an innovative, peaceful and contributed to the enhancement of human kind.
It's amazing how popular someone can become in the west just for attacking Islam no matter how stupid their points are or how uneducated they are.
At least Amina Wadood has some idea what she's talking about yet the western media doesn't focus on her because she probably won't sing to their tune.
Any way I don't generally expect intelligent points to be made by bourgeois Arabs. Zaki Badawi was an exception I think.
Everyone should be respected as a human being. But you shouldn't expect to get more respect just because you are a Muslim.
Respect has to be earned. You can't just sit back and milk the legacy of our ancestors.
[b]yes beast everyone, even those held in gauntanamo bay and iraqi prisons - i never said this, and i never heard any muslim say this .
well beast go earn your respect, i think i deserve it as does everyone else in the world
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Just to clarify. All human beings deserve to be respected.
you were suggesting that Muslims have done great things in the past so therefore they deserve greater respect.
Those people in the past who achieved great things should be given a greater degree of respect. But that does not mean that anybody who happens to be a Muslim should automatically be given more respect than they deserve as a human being.
wasnt suggesting that :o Im saying havent muslims proven we deserve eqaul respect (not greater), the west such as people like wafa assume the worst of muslims due to some terrorist attack and band as all as terrorist, by me pointing out the past , i was just expressing the viewpoint that muslims have shown to be peaceful,tolerant etc.., any how it was just a misinterpretation of my point, no biggy
Do people like wafa see us as eqauls, are muslims such as those in iraq seen as eqaul to christians in america for example?
i never bothered to watch the second one cos i got so fed up of the first one.
this women is bonkers!!! i hate the way she put all muslims into the one box and making out as if we all want to destroy churches and cause havoc to the world. its not like that at all... we want to live in peace...
and there's extremists in all religions not just islam.
smile and be happy!!!
I've read about this woman in the New York Times. What is her background?
On a related note the New York Times article indicated that she's recieved numerous death threats, much like Salmon Rushdie, Pim Fortuyn or Theo van Gogh.
Why?
who cares what her background is she is clearly very ignorant, there are 1.4 billion muslims on the world, 25% of the world population is muslim, and she has the nerve to characterise them all as being terrorists :roll:
I cannot answer why because i did not write those death threats and unless you suspect the person who wrote those death threats is on the forum , i dont know why your asking us why, its like me asking you why after july bombings did the muslim council of britain recieve so many death threats :!: .
although the women is incredibly bias she does not deserve death threats , nor does anyone else , surely we should let god deal with them :), everyone is entitled to their opinion
Well I think you've already made the connection yourself.
did any one took a notice of how she qoutes da quran... amazing haa....i don't think she is ignorant but I believe she is arrogant...she knoes everythin about da quran, this world and da truth..she is just kissin a$$ (and plz excuse my french)
You can't escape from DEATH. So be prepared
The British National Party quotes the Quran.
She is just relaying Western prejudices and reinforcing stereotypes.
She is clearly ignorant. Eg:
lol that afraid of self scrutiny eh?
Easy enough - they were furious and blaimed muslims due to the prominent role of Islam and muslims in the bombings.
So why does it happen?
knoledge is dangerous.....?
well so is lack of it.....sum1 clearly didnt tell her u talk out of ur face and not ur rear :roll:
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
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