"raf786" wrote:

i have to be careful in my comments as i dont want to break the law by being categorised as glorifying terrorism...as for islamic perspective, im sure thats for the scholors to decide, i see no reason why muslims using suicide bombings against oppressors is wrong, they are the bravest among us and may allah be pleased with them.

Oh.

"100man" wrote:

"raf786" wrote:

i have to be careful in my comments as i dont want to break the law by being categorised as glorifying terrorism...as for islamic perspective, im sure thats for the scholors to decide, i see no reason why muslims using suicide bombings against oppressors is wrong, they are the bravest among us and may allah be pleased with them.

Oh.

very clever,cunning and manipulative of you 100man , a career in the corrupt biased media awaits you

100man did you know the first terrorist organisation was a jewish one, who targeted the british in israel

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No insults please. I have corected the names. do not be childish.

for those of you who think only muslim extremists carry out terrorism and only link terrorism with islam , you are victims of the media, any learned historian will tell you islam and terrorism is a modern phenomina , jews have been more widely link to terrorism throughout history and still carry on their terrorist activities.

For the past 100 years, since the early Zionist colonization of Palestine in
the 19th Century, the Palestinians and other Arabs have been, and still are
subjected to the worst forms of terrorism. The terrorism has been committed
by the Zionist colonizers (settlers), and the para-military organizations,
and later on by the Zionist State with its military forces, and its
intelligence agents....The Israeli forces started by slaughtering people, dispossessing population,
burning farms and houses, destroying infrastructures, and poisoning wells
with Typhus and Cholera, as they did in Lydda and Ramleh. They kept on
committing massacres against the Palestinians in the 1948 and the 1967 areas,
such as Qibya (53), Kufr Qasem (56), Qalqelia (56), Khan Younis (56,67), Gaza
(56,87), Al Sammu' (66), The Galilee (76), Al Khalil Univ. (85), Ayoun Qara
(89), Nahalin (89), Al Haram Al Sharif in Jerusalem (90), Al Haram Al
Ibrahimi in Hebron (94), and Sabra and Shatilla Palestinian refugee camps in
September 82 in Lebanon, and many others. While at the same time the Israeli
forces are still closing Palestinian areas, imposing curfews, breaking
children's bones, poisoning and sterilizing school girls in the Palestinian
cities, injecting the Palestinian babies with AIDS virus, and many other
inhuman holocaust types of methods.

http//www.angelfire.com/ia/palestinefoever/differnttypesofzionsts.html

Last month the National Archives, formerly known as the Public Record Office, released MI5 Security Service files showing that Zionist terror groups planned to set up cells in London and assassinate the post-war Labour government’s British Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin.....The paper was written in the aftermath of a terrorist bombing by the Irgun that had in the previous month blown up the British headquarters in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 people—Britons, Arabs and Jews—and injured many more....Firstly, the papers provide a timely reminder that the Zionists of all political colours used terrorist methods to achieve statehood—something that present-day Zionists seem to have forgotten when they talk about refusing to negotiate with the Palestinians whom they routinely refer to as “terrorists”.

It is not simply that Ariel Sharon and company are a bunch of hypocrites or political amnesiacs about the past. More importantly, the Irgun, led by Menahem Begin, the Stern Group and Lehi, its successor, went on to form the Herut party, forerunner of the Likud party, and the ultra right-wing Moledet party, which form the main coalition partners of the Sharon’s government. The gang of former generals, ultra-nationalists and religious bigots that run Israel today are the political heirs of terrorists who furthermore had close connections with the fascists....

http//www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/irae-j21.shtml

"raf786" wrote:

any learned historian will tell you islam and terrorism is a modern phenomina

:roll: its an oxymoron is what it is. :roll: the two words do not go together raf, what is wrong with u. :?

I personally don't understand how some muslims can glorify Suicide bombing due to the fact most of the victim in recent time have been muslims. Suicide bombing could be said to have been one of the worse things to happen to muslims, looking at the current Iraq situation.

However on the matter is it justified, i think in some incident it is, depending on what the people have to defend themselves with and who they target. The excuse of bombing a bus and then saying that we didn't know there was children and women on there, won't do, But Military targets there nothing wrong with it IMO.

But there is a massive double standard. It like the jet fighters, they can fly over a village and bomb it to pieces and still be treated like Hero in their home country, no big deal there is there, he come back and lives in his big house in luxury, but if a person who has nothing, who family has be ripped aprt by oppression and war, out of despair sacrifices himself, he enemy No1 in these same people eyes, doesn't make sense IMO.