The Revival Newsblog

Published by You on 15 January, 2006 - 20:05

Salaam

I am currently hacking away on a newsblog for the website.

It should be ready now.

I have also added a page in the 'Rules/FAQ' section to discuss the Newsblog:

[b]What has been done:[/b]

1. Wordpress has been given a template which looks almost identical the website.
2. The search on the left hand side, if used within the blog will search the blog instead of the whole site through google.
3. Commenting has been disabled.
4.The menu's do now work properly.
5. Add it onto homepage.

[b]Current problems/TODO:[/b]

1. The blog has a separate login from the forums. I have looked into this alot, and it will probably be kept separate. [b]will probably not do[/b]
2. Probably a whole lot more that I have not thought of yet.

[b]Questions[/b]

1. Should comments be allowed? [current decision = no]
2. Any other features that are needed?

The blog is in working order now.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 21:03

It will make me coffee in the mornings.

Its a news blog. You add news to it. News appears there, and once completed, also on the homepage.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Beast on 15 January, 2006 - 21:15

The 'news' page is kinda wierd.

If you select Africa, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Palestine or Syria it gives American sports news.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 21:22

yup realised that today.

I 'fixed' some probles on that page about three days ago... so probably something wrong since then.

So apart from it being a bit barren (you can add images to posts...), is there anything in particular that needs to be done?

(I need to make the appear title on the left instead of centre, and fix the flickering menu's).

I do not know why the menu's are flickering though. I have used the same code elsewhere...

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 21:30

I have added a post with an image link in it.

Anything else that is needed to make it less 'bloglike', and more 'newslike'

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Beast on 15 January, 2006 - 21:42

This post is good: [url=

Maybe this could be a template for all posts.

But you could leave more of a border around the pic and the text. EG like this: [url= (my red dots to demo width of border)

Also change the font, and make headline bigger.

And require each post to add a pic. (For stories that don't have pic put a default pic of a globe or something)

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 21:45

check the post again... you loaded it when I was still getting it right...

It has more padding, but not as much as the beeb.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Beast on 15 January, 2006 - 21:57

There's quite a bit of space between the top menu and the heading 'the Revival Newsblog'. Maybe you you could fill that space up a bit.

Also if there isn't one already, maybe you could place a word limit on each each post on the frontpage. Say about 50 words.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 22:13

That soace is in the main template of the whole website...

I can remove it from the pages, but was not sure if I should...

One other thing, so far I have the following categories:

Uncategorised
The Revival
World

Under world I have the following subcategories:

Chechnya
Iran
Iraq
Palestine
Syria
UK

what other categories will be required?

Should the world news be finely grained (add loads of reagions... pakistan, india, bangladesh etc), or shall it be more regions (middle east, southeast asia indian subcontinent, china, americas... europe...)

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 22:16

more details please.

Shall I get rid of Iran Iraq Syria Palestine, and just have Middleeast?

Or shall I have middleeast, and have the main regions as sub-subcategories?

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Beast on 15 January, 2006 - 22:22

Just have Middle East. No need to break it down further.

Submitted by *DUST* on 15 January, 2006 - 22:41

"Beast" wrote:
Just have Middle East. No need to break it down further.

agreed - have it like it is on the BBC website.
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Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 23:30

Does anyone use the news page?

I am considering getting rid of it, since I broke it in the last week.

Should I fix it, or shall I get it to redirect to the newsblog?

both serve the same purpose.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Angel on 15 January, 2006 - 23:37

"Admin" wrote:

1. Should comments be allowed?

Yep as it wil be more interactive that way but again it maybe a lot of work cuz u might have to be moderatin stuff (or will u?)

Also i think the members on the forum should be able to use their normal log-in's for the blog.

Submitted by You on 15 January, 2006 - 23:41

normal logins are not an option.

I have waited this long as I was trying to find a way.

So far the plan is that the forums will have a diferent login to the rest of the website.

On the blog, I will have to allow accounts instead of getting people to join...

and for comments I think it is best if any coments are made on the forums...

If the topic ios interesting, just make a topic linking to the blogpost... and post away.

There would be moderating the other way... and having two sets of users will not be a good thing.

(I have seen on other sides where diferent groups of people are on the forums and the comments sections...)

So far I am leaning towards not allowing comments.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by *DUST* on 15 January, 2006 - 23:44

"Admin" wrote:
So far I am leaning towards not allowing comments.

i agree - moderating wud b a much easier task for u guys if all the debate was happening on this forum. The Revival is better how it is - small and easy to navigate around.
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[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=, X-Men[/url]

Submitted by Beast on 15 January, 2006 - 23:47

"Admin" wrote:
Does anyone use the news page?

I am considering getting rid of it, since I broke it in the last week.

Should I fix it, or shall I get it to redirect to the newsblog?

both serve the same purpose.

I never knew there was one until today.

Doubt I'd use it anyway.

Go with the blog.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 00:45

Oops I have broken something.

Current updates show, but I cannot access the admin section atm...

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 01:02

"Admin" wrote:
Oops I have briken something.

Current updates show, but I cannot access the admin section atm...

fixed.

Also the side menu's should be behaving correctly in all browsers.

(the links will no longer change colours in internet explorer though. I had to disable that to fix this...)

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 01:16

ok, I think the basic blog is set up.

Comments are not allowed.

If anyone wants to post news items, let me know.

I have a couple joined on atm... should really be enough... but the more the merrier.

(I will not add anyone who will not post, or I cannot trust, as soon the feed will also be on the homepage, and I want to allow people to post without moderating...)

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Dave on 16 January, 2006 - 01:20

Perhaps I am missing the point but why do we need a blog?

Most of the meaningful topics on the forum are started by an article to which the forumites respond - which is no different than a blog.

The only advantage i've ever found with blogs is that sometimes they have commentary by people who have some level of experience or acclamation.

For example NBC and CNN both do blogs, then there are the freelancers like Daniel Pipes or Andrew Sullivan.

Oh that's another thing.

Call me paper/tv biased but don't blogs have a reputation for being just a tad bit fringe?

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 01:29

blogs are HUGE.

We used to have a news section. that never really worked, as it was too much effort to update manually. a few hours every night.

Then we had until today this automatic news aggregator. It was not really that good, and most people never noticed it.

There is so much news out there, that it mostly gets hidden. Blogs bring out the news. Think the story about america using chemical weapons in Iraq. The news was out there. The big networks found it too risky. The blogs picked it up. It became famous, the networks could not get enough.

We will be filtering news. Posting news relevant to us (and the poster...)

Afterall not everyone is willing to go to BBC news, CNN, the Guardian, the Independent, timesOnline etc etc etc (may be even fox!) to find out about a topic.

Here it should hopefully be in one place, and filtered for our audience.

and then if the poster want to discuss it, also start a forum topic, add a link on the blog, and hey presto, we discuss on the forums! (comments have been disabled on the blog...)

And the authentication with the blog will provide me with an infrstructure for a few more things I want to do. (events/tv/radio guides... and eventally a custom CMS solution)

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Omrow on 16 January, 2006 - 01:29

Salam

"Admin" wrote:
I am currently hacking away on a newsblog for the website.

[b]Questions[/b]

1. Should comments be allowed?
2. Any features that are needed?

1. Yes. Up to 2 or 3 lines. We dont want to see lectures from Asiya there.

2. Angel This is Islamic forum. Only news about Muslims and Islam should be included. We can read all about the rubbish Arsenal on BBC, if we really wanted to.

(b) No gossip please. Only real and true news.

(c) Have both Islamic as well as Christian dates. Try to include Chineese as well, just to prove your tolerance.

(d) We also want to have audio files like the BBC. I know you are not up to the visuals yet.

(e) Announcements for Eid days should be reported for all major UK cities, including Norwich, even though NOT one muslim lives there.

Give rose Please dont preach on the news page. Its not a mosque.

(g) No snuf stuff please. Keep it upto 12A.

(h) If Al Jazeera can be a target, so can you be. Therefore, no embedding.

I have more, but lets begin with these.

Omrow

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 01:46

1. I have decided no comments for now... May change it later
2(a,b). Its a newspage that should be relevant to muslims. For sports, gossip people can go elsewhere.

c. For Islamic dates, I need to adapt the date script. I had one, but I will need to find it again, and get it to work with the site.

d. There is a plan (in my head [Online Radio not yet though. Baby steps.]) for audio and video. But not as part of the newsblog. This will generally link to resources of other sites...

(e,f,g) Its a perfect place for announcements. Its not for preaching. Leave that to the main site.

(h) what do you mean? There are no comments, so nothing can be embedded. If comments are ever allowed, any post that contains either links or images or anything embedded will have to be approved my a moderator.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 02:06

I am still working on what should be shown on the homepage..

Currently you can see what I have onthe test page:

Its my bedtime, as I am going work 2moro... so keep the ideas coming, and I will folow them up 2moro night.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 02:27

I made a few more changes, and now I am really off to bed

question:

1. The first few items will show their content. after that the items will only show the title. In the test page I have set it as first item will show text, others will only show title.

How many items shouls be shown?
And how should the titles without text be shown? Currently they are the same size. They will probably need to be smaller.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 23:32

Shall I add the blog to the homepage now?

have a look [url=

I have not figured out (yet) how to change the way headlines without text should look.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by Dave on 16 January, 2006 - 23:35

I totally just blogged.

High Five

Submitted by You on 16 January, 2006 - 23:37

"Andoverpolo" wrote:
I totally just blogged.

High Five

High five.

(I have edited it. Read your PM. My mistake as I had not clarified a few things!)

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

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