Bling Bling It’s a Paki Ting
Salaam
Yet another aunty grabbed my hand the other day and said that my bare wrists “don’t look good”. I pointed out that they weren’t bare- I was wearing a charm bracelet…
I know what she meant though. I’ve heard this lecture many times before. I wasn’t wearing any gold.
I don’t like gold and I have never done so. I dislike the look and the colour. And how silly would it look if I was wearing 12 chunky gold bracelets with English clothes?
And I hardly own any gold…. I have two gold rings which were a B’day present (from an English shop). Two teeny, weeny gold nose studs (not worth more then £5 each). And a gold bracelet that dad got me a year ago… and I don’t like wearing that cos it snags on peoples clothes.
If an Asian girl is not dripping in gold-is it really a big deal? Does it mean that her parents are financially struggling? Does it mean that her parents/husband doesn’t love her? Does it mean that she is not “feminine” enough? Does it mean that she’s going against her so called culture?
I can understand the following “our culture” argument to a certain extent…however, is there anything wrong with NOT following some aspects of our culture?
I do think that an Asian bride is not complete unless she is wearing gold…but isn’t it so pointless to buy so much gold for only one day? Can she not borrow a friends wedding gold for a day? I also really do not see the point of buying so much gold when a girl is born so that she can wear it on her wedding day….by the time her wedding day comes the gold is gone out of fashion anyway.
My distant cousin got married this summer. It was surprising and refreshing to see a bride not dripping with gold. She only had one chain around her neck and that tikka thing on her head-She looked SO beautiful.….her mum told us that she didn’t want any gold. And I know my cousin is doted on by her parents, uncles and grandparents…she’s the only girl in the family and is even nicknamed “princess” (and treated like one too)….and her parents are very, VERY well off.
And why specifically yellow chunky, heavy gold? What’s wrong with a girl wearing delicate white gold or [url=http://www.diamonds-ring.com/diamond/diamond-bracelet-DB20.htm]THIS[/url]?
The point of my thread isn’t to condemn those people who wear gold or even discourage people from wearing it. The issue raised is regarding the mentality that….a girl who isn’t dripping in gold is not loved by family….or that she’s not feminine enough or that she is going against her culture and becoming too “westernised”…. or that lack of gold reflects ones financial status. And this obsession with gold mainly shared by the older generation.
Please share you thoughts on all of the above…
Wasalaam
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[quote="Med"]Asians are form subcontinent.
Chinks are any1 with funny eyes. They dont really tend to differntiate between japs and chinese and thailand lot.[/quote]
I take it by the sarcasm this is a common perception.
Didn't the prince consort make some off color remark about asians and their "slitty eyes" recently or something like that?
Pretty much the same in the US too, lots of people just clump "asians" into the "slanty eyed yellow people" category and call it a night.
I suppose it is rather racist but without a great deal of exposure to any group of people it's hard to tell the difference (for example people can't really tell the difference between arabs and hispanics a lot).
I can definitely differenciate between thai, han ren and japanese but it's difficult.
Han ren look the most "Asian" they have more rounded faces and the eyes and all that, japanese by comparison look slightly polynesian and are usually a little paler.
Dunno many Thais but they look a bit darker than the Japanese but they share that Polynesian complexion.
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Admin bro, did i say summat rong?
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[quote="Med"]Admin bro, did i say summat rong?[/quote]
I was not sure how much was in jest.
I thought better to spare any potential blushes.
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[quote="MuslimSister"]I think the [url=http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.asianart.com/exhibi…] is really pretty.
Its an old fashioned thing though.
And Dave, many UK Asians are heavily influenced by RnB and Rap...more then "Bollywood". But the term "Bling bling" isnt that commonly used here...I just used it cos it rhymed with "Paki ting".[/quote]
lol gotcha - clever cultural synthesis on the rhyme.
That is really pretty. Ornate stuff is tricky because if it is intricate enough it can be either very pretty or far too flashy. But that's got a really interesting exotic feel to it.
...on a somewhat unrelated note - is it me or is the R Kelly song "remix to ignition" a gigantic raunchy sexual inuendo?
How is it possible I never noticed that...
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[quote="Don Karnage"]
...on a somewhat unrelated note - is it me or is the R Kelly song "remix to ignition" a gigantic raunchy sexual inuendo?
How is it possible I never noticed that...[/quote]
Most Black music is full of sleazy inuendo's. And that song is very explicit.
I have a 16 year old brother who blasts such music from his room 24/7. And his room is right next to mine....
Edit: btw do you know where Asian brides wear ^^ that thing?
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[quote="MuslimSister"]
Most Black music is full of sleazy inuendo's. And that song is very explicit.
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well... it's not really "black music" since that can also encompass (and in large part does) gospel, jazz, rap other than "gangsta rap" and soul - but the rap and pop scene, especially gangsta rap is always raunchy and disgusting.
[quote]I have a 16 year old brother who blasts such music from his room 24/7. And his room is right next to mine....[/quote]
That is so obnoxious, and can't be easy with school and studying and everything.
[quote]Edit: btw do you know where Asian brides wear ^^ that thing?[/quote]
This is from the article you posted:
[i]JOL1356 - A gold hair ornament (Jhumar) worn to the side of the hair on the left side usually from a hook in the top of the hair and spread out over the hair with side hooks, set with foilback quartz,glass ruby and saphire and Basara seed pearls. It has a beautiful double peacock design at the top and peacock heads on either side of the bottom bar. This Jhumar is a rare early complete sample of north Indian Hair ornaments."[/i]
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Lol-clever boy.
But yeah, I’m wrong. I shouldn’t call it “black music”. It’s mainly the Westwood, Rnb, Hip hop and Rap scene as shown on MTV that is dirty and VERY degrading to women.
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[quote="MuslimSister"]Lol-clever boy.
But yeah, I’m wrong. I shouldn’t call it “black music”. It’s mainly the Westwood, Rnb, Hip hop and Rap scene as shown on MTV that is dirty and VERY degrading to women.[/quote]
Definitely - MTV has a lot to do with that. Imagine how sleezy music wouldn't be if there were no such thing as a music video.
Sometimes I get the feeling the reason songs are written like that now is so that you can fit more "honeys" into the video.
Like the Thong Song - gimme a break - that song HAD to have been written with a music video in mind. I mean I was laughing and shaking my head at how shockingly ridiculous this song is the first time I heard it but I definitely had a very vivid image of Sisqo running around pointing at girls wearing thongs.
It was the whole point.
It's ironic, then, that the absolute very first music video MTV ever broadcasted was "video killed the radio star" by "the buggles"
Almost like they were flaunting their evil plans...
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[quote="Med"] but most often than not when the sone inlaw comes on wedding day they put gold rings on his fingers and pop some mithai in his mouth and stuff..[/quote]
yea...my mum put a gold ring and gold chain on both my bro-inlaws, dad was against it but she got her way in the end..cant let this happen again.I think she knew its wrong but people talk innit.
[quote="Med"] Cos I aint got sisters, my mom goes that cousin sisters have to do it, and they are loads, so have to give a gold set to all my cousin sisters?
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i actually didnt know that happens, i guess i dont know much what goes on at weddings..aint really intrested.
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paki culture stinks
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[quote="Med"]Yeh same here. Thats ok with the girls, but they also give gold to the groom, particulalry the parents of the bride give gold rings and gold watches to sons in law.[/quote]
Reminds me of the sometimes heated deates my brother had with our relatives in Pakistan before his wedding.
[quote="Med"]..like apparently when they do sehrabandi,the groom has to give a gold set to each of his sisters for helping him get ready?[/quote]
Really, i didn't get a gold set, better have a word with my brothers :evil:
I haven't come across the above practice, but they do give money at the sehrabhandi.
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someone we know got married and on her walimah she had ARTIFICIAL gold on
yes-how scandelous :roll:
it looked like real gold and cost about £100
I thought it looked good-its so expensive wearing a diff set in every asian wedding function
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[quote="Fatima"]
[quote="Med"]..like apparently when they do sehrabandi,the groom has to give a gold set to each of his sisters for helping him get ready?[/quote]
Really, i didn't get a gold set, better have a word with my brothers :evil:
I haven't come across the above practice, but they do give money at the sehrabhandi.[/quote]
lol. If you do get anything now, Im expecting a teeny weeny fee for putting the idea into your head, say 50%?
gud gud.
I think just like in hinduism different families have their own wedding practices so is the same in pakistan.
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[quote="hijaban"]paki culture stinks[/quote]
the parts that have no relevance at all 2 Islam do
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IMO alot of people deep down are ashamed to be of paki origin...
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[quote="Admin"]IMO alot of people deep down are ashamed to be of paki origin...[/quote]
iv never thought of it in that way before BUT looking at the state of Pakistan which is always deteriorating there aint much ta be proud of...
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[quote="muslim_kuri"][quote="hijaban"]paki culture stinks[/quote]
the parts that have no relevance at all 2 Islam do[/quote]
its all mixed up
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[quote="Admin"]IMO alot of people deep down are ashamed to be of paki origin...[/quote]
I disagree.
I love being a Paki-Ive never been ashamed of it
But I like being a British Paki
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I aint ashamed to be pakistani. Alhamdulillah whatever I am is from ALLAH.
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Only thing im proud of is being a Muslim - my origin doesnt mean much 2 me personally
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[quote="muslim_kuri"][quote="hijaban"]paki culture stinks[/quote]
the parts that have no relevance at all 2 Islam do[/quote]
[color=darkblue][b]I agree..especially the way pakis should live wid one anotha, the wife, weddings, then it cums to cast. Ohhhhh..i h8 it all :x
Im proud to b a Muslim and dats wot matters 😂 [/b][/color]
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[quote="Beast"]In the US 'Indian' refers to anything from the Subcontinent...[/quote]
lol nope, it could refer to the 'Red Indians' too... 🙂
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[quote="MuslimSister"]I think the [url=http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.asianart.com/exhibi…] is really pretty.
Its an old fashioned thing though.
And Dave, many UK Asians are heavily influenced by RnB and Rap...more then "Bollywood". But the term "Bling bling" isnt that commonly used here...I just used it cos it rhymed with "Paki ting".[/quote]
jhumars, like the one u posted, look pretty on their own, but IMO they look wierd when on one's head... :? 😉
tikas are great tho.
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[quote="Aasiyah"]tikas are great tho.[/quote]
the tikka i got is beautiful...you can get so many wicked designs out there,
have you seen them bracelets that are attached to about 3 rings..you know what they called? they look nice on a bride.
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speaking of gold. My grandmother has loads. She was dividing it up a lil while back, deciding whats gonna go go to who after she dies.
My future wife is gonna be VERY lucky indeed, being my dadi's favourite she was showing me this big chunky chains and bangles and bracelets and saying these are for Med's dulhan. I just hope that whoever I marry aint just marrying me so she and her mom can get their grubby hands on my dadis gold.
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[quote="Med"] I just hope that whoever I marry aint just marrying me so she and her mom can get their grubby hands on my dadis gold.[/quote]
LOL...med where are you getting all these funny ideas from?
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[quote="naj"][quote="Med"] I just hope that whoever I marry aint just marrying me so she and her mom can get their grubby hands on my dadis gold.[/quote]
LOL...med where are you getting all these funny ideas from?[/quote]
Im just stating my concerns. That is all.
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[quote="naj"]have you seen them bracelets that are attached to about 3 rings..you know what they called? they look nice on a bride.[/quote]
yeh, wasnt aware they had a 'name' as such, people just call 'em ring-bracelets i think. :? i dont really like the ones with more than one ring, it gets a bit OTT. the delicate ones with one ring are ok. 🙂
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med; atleast you know what to look out for
[quote="Aasiyah"]yeh, wasnt aware they had a 'name' as such, people just call 'em ring-bracelets i think. :? i dont really like the ones with more than one ring, it gets a bit OTT. the delicate ones with one ring are ok. :)[/quote]
all depends on the design...i've seen the ones with three rings they delicate looking not OTT, my sisters wore them...havent really seen any with one ring though,,
24 carat tends to be chunky-fyde ..i think the delicate ones are 22 carat
[quote="Don Karnage"]...that's messed up.
It sounds like the Brits randomly sort of decided the subcontinent will be "Asia" and everything to the east of that is "East Asia" and everything to the west (but not Europe) is in the "middle" east.[/quote]
How do you think kuwait was separated from Mesopotamia?
and why are to borders in Africa straight lines drawn with rulers, nd not along natural or ethnic divides?
We have this nack of fine grained separation. Historically it has not worked.