Hussein skips court

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[b]Hussein skips court: Trial resumes without Hussein[/b]

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BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Saddam Hussein's trial resumed Wednesday after a delay of several hours with the deposed Iraqi leader absent from the courtroom.

Chief Judge Rizgar Mohammed Amin opened the session at 3 p.m. (7 a.m. ET), about four hours late, and called the first witness.

Hussein's chair sat empty at the front of the dock, and his chief lawyer thanked Amin for continuing the proceedings.

Amin said Hussein would be told about the proceedings taking place in his absence and that judges would meet with the defense team after Wednesday's session to discuss the lawyers' security situation.

On Tuesday, Hussein threatened not to return to court after five witnesses testified about brutalities they experienced during a government crackdown 23 years ago.

At the end of the nine-hour court session, Hussein complained that he and his seven co-defendants were tired and had been deprived of opportunities to shower, have a change of clothes, exercise or go for a smoke.

"I will not be in a court without justice. Go to hell, all you agents of America," Hussein told the court.

Wednesday morning, Hussein's lawyers conferred with the trial's judges and then the defendant, apparently in an effort to resolve the situation, CNN's Aneesh Raman reported from Baghdad.

CNN's Nic Robertson described the situation as a "power struggle between Saddam Hussein and the court."

Hussein and seven other defendants are on trial in connection with the deaths of more than 140 men in Dujail, a town north of Baghdad. The 1982 killings were considered retribution for a failed assassination attempt on Hussein.

Tuesday's witnesses -- three men and two women sitting behind a curtain with voices disguised by a modulator -- described beatings, electrocutions and deaths in 1982.

Hussein and the Baath Party were firmly in power then, and the country was at war with Iran, a crucial period in the nation's history.

Fears of retribution by Saddam loyalists forced the court to shield the witnesses' identities. Witnesses are allowed to have their voices altered to hide their identities from the defendants, media and people in the visitors' gallery -- but not from the judges or attorneys.

Breaking down in tears, a woman identified only as "Witness A" described mistreatment by Iraqi intelligence officers while at Abu Ghraib prison 20 years ago and then captivity in the desert. She said she was beaten with cables and given electric shocks.

She also described the torture of family members and other prisoners and the destruction of homes and orchards. (Watch report of woman's dramatic testimony -- 1:24)

After her came an older woman identified as "Witness B" and a man identified as "Witness C."

The latter testified that he was 12 when he was rounded up in 1982. He said that he was taken first to Baath Party headquarters in Dujail, then to Baghdad, where he was tortured and sent to Abu Ghraib jail. He eventually was taken to a desert prison camp, where he spent four years before being returned to Dujail. ( Watch a roundup of the emotional testimony and Hussein's angry response -- 3:19)

Asked which of the defendants he held accountable, Witness C testified that he saw defendant Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti, Hussein's half brother, at the Baath headquarters in Dujail.

During his cross-examination of Witness C, al-Tikriti acknowledged that he was at Baath headquarters but recalled a different encounter.

"Don't you remember? I was there. I kissed 60 men. I shook their hands, and I set them free," al-Tikriti said.

Defense attorneys questioned the accuracy of Witness C's childhood recollections.

A man testifying as "Witness D" said that he hasn't seen his son since the 16-year-old was whisked away in 1982.

The man said that after Hussein's ouster, papers were discovered indicating his son had died.

The defense pounced on this detail, questioning its authenticity.

"Witness E" also described abuse that followed the Dujail roundup.
More subdued session

Tuesday's nine-hour session was more controlled than Monday's chaotic proceeding, which was punctuated by Hussein's outbursts. Chief Judge Amin, in charge of the proceeding, attempted to keep the unnamed witnesses on point.

At the end of the day, Hussein complained that he had been wearing the same shirt and underwear for three days. He said he's tired and indicated that he isn't inclined to carry on Wednesday -- when two more witnesses are scheduled to testify.

The ex-dictator said the United States wants to execute him and finish off what he called the theater of Saddam Hussein.

He also said he wanted to know why he and the other defendants were not asked whether they had been tortured.

More hiccups came in the form of technical glitches during the day's proceedings.

Defense lawyers complained during Witness A's testimony that the equipment disguising her voice made it difficult to understand her, which prompted the judge to order that her voice modulator be turned off.

During Witness B's testimony, the judge shut off the modulation system because he thought it wasn't operating properly. But in shutting it off, all feeds from the courtroom were cut as well.

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Beast — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 - 11:46

Suicide bombings take place in Muslim countries too and they are carried out against other Muslims.

The target of suicide bombers is not necessarily America and Britain.

judda — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 - 12:00

yea but we wanna stop da problem here first :roll:

Beast — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 - 12:05

[quote="Judda"]yea but we wanna stop da problem here first :roll:[/quote]

But the problems are linked.

In a globalised world you can't deal with one country in isolation. External influences have to be taken into account.

judda — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 - 12:50

[quote="Omrow"]People WANT to die. How can you stop them.[/quote]
give them some chill pillz

judda — Tue, 13 Dec 2005 - 13:58

[quote="Beast"]Send 'em to see a shrink.[/quote]
lol if i c any1 going through the 'conversion period' i'll make sure they email u 😃

Sirus — Sun, 29 Jan 2006 - 12:19

[quote]
[size=18]Saddam walks out in trial uproar [/size]

Former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein walked out of court amid uproar within minutes of the resumption of his murder trial under a new presiding judge.
He left in protest after his defence team walked out, and was followed by two more of his co-defendants.

The walkouts came after the new chief judge, Raouf Abdul Rahman, had Saddam's half brother and co-defendant Barzan al-Tikriti removed from the courtroom.

Saddam and seven others are on trial for the 1982 killing of 148 villagers.

They could face the death penalty if convicted of the killings, which followed an assassination attempt on Saddam Hussein in the village of Dujail.

[b]New court rules [/b]

The court proceedings started with the new chief judge saying that he would not tolerate any defendants making political speeches or disobeying his authority.

His predecessor, Judge Rizgar Amin, had resigned earlier this month after criticism that he had been too lenient towards the defendants.

Mr al-Tikriti, a former Iraqi intelligence chief who is suffering from cancer, launched into a lengthy complaint about his medical condition and treatment.

Judge Rahman ordered the forcible removal of Mr al-Tikriti, who shouted that the court was "the daughter of a whore" as he was dragged away.

The judge then rounded on the defence lawyers, saying that they had contributed to the atmosphere that allowed defendants to think they could make lengthy speeches and disrespect the authority of the court.

Next, a defence lawyer was ejected from the court, and as a result the rest of Saddam's defence team stormed out, despite the judge warning "any lawyer who walks out will not be allowed back into this courtroom".

[b]Heated exchange [/b]
The former Iraqi leader then launched into a vigorous exchange with the judge, telling him that he wanted to leave and be tried in absentia.

I want to leave the court," Saddam demanded of the judge, who in turn ordered the former leader out.

"I led you for 35 years and you order me out of the court?" Saddam responded angrily.

"I am the judge, you are the defendant. You have to obey me," the judge hit back.

He accused Judge Rahman of abusing his rights as a defendant who was "innocent until proven guilty".

As the argument became more heated Saddam banged his hands on the dock and hurled insults at the judge.

Eventually, the judge said that Saddam should also be removed and he was led from the court too, shouting "Down with the traitors!" as he went.

[b]'Justice undermined' [/b]
Judge Rahman then appointed four new defence lawyers, but two more of the defendants, Taha Yassin Ramadan and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, said they did not approve of their appointment and they also left the court.

The trial then resumed with an anonymous female witness giving evidence about events in Dujail from behind a curtain before a short recess was called.

Saad Djebbar, an international lawyer and commentator on Middle East politics told the BBC that the chaotic scenes meant that the whole trial was being undermined:

"I think it was a big mistake that this trial was held in Iraq because the judge, you cannot find a person, one individual today in Iraq - judge, lawyer, prosecutor who is impartial vis a vis Saddam Hussein. Either they are with him or against him."

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[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4659274.stm]Beeb[/url]

lol.....thats pretty funny

everyone walking out, defence lawyers being kicked out, no control over whats going on