Muslims, The West and the media

judda

In the Global Unity event Imran Khan did an excellent speech saying the west has conspired its people to turn against Muslims. One guy even suggested that this was world war three!!! I remember on Omrows 9/11 anniversary thread Admin put Omrow straight by saying it was just a terrorist attack (like the one in Oklahoma) and told him not to differentiate it by saying it was “done by Muslims”. I remember Dave was quick to say “stop this not Islam fault!” and his post also said “[i]you must know your enemy[/i]”. When I told Dave about the ridiculous amounts of sects I discovered on Google he said “how and even why should the USA distinguish you from Bin Ladin and the Islamists….we don’t know what we are dealing with at this point”.

Do you feel that the media is turning the west against Muslims?

Do you believe that this “fanatical Islam” is a political dream and that every society has its fanatics?

Do you feel that Britain and America are creating the terrorism problem like the treaty of Versaille caused the rise of Hitler?

BTW do you feel that Vectone and Al-jazeera are manipulating Muslims to turn against the Jews?

I would be interest in hearing all your views….

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You — Tue, 6 Dec 2005 - 11:24

The media is sensationanlist.

It will always towards the direcion giving the bigger headline. And the aimis viewing figures. ratings.

Accuracy is a mute point.

Sirus — Tue, 6 Dec 2005 - 23:44

in the media.....whoever shouts the loudest gets heard

and them radicals make themself heard, whilst many decent muslims dont speak out infortunately

so maybe the media aint to blame

but maybe they are, they have hidden agenda's

dont take Vectone seriously

You — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 00:58

I don't think we can complain.

We The Revival are now a part of the media.

maybe not mainstream... but we are either part of the problem or part of the solution.

Sirus — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 00:59

part of the Solution 8)

did you know, we had Japanese TV station filming us all day at the confrence in london 🙂

JUst us 8)

You — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 01:05

well that is ed.

He will talk if eh is given the chance.

DOn't matter what subject. don't matter if he is making any sense...

Sirus — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 01:06

you wouldnt believe it tho

hes not the most talkative person in the revival, not by any means

the whole london day trip, he was beaten at his own game 😂

You — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 01:10

By 'the spokesman'. Zahid Maqbool.

There is a reason why he is the spokesman.

he has a unique style of talking. very memorable. tell him what to say, and he will say it better than anyone else.

and he has a lot of varied experiences to talk about.

Sirus — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 01:11

i know....trust me....and you dont have to tell him what to say

hes good at cussing as well 😂

man that guy has got some powerful batteries...

judda — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 08:40

[quote="Admin"]well that is ed.

He will talk if eh is given the chance.

DOn't matter what subject. don't matter if he is making any sense...[/quote]

y didn't he ever reply to my PM's? 😢

MuslimSister — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 11:45

[quote="Darth V-Hayder"]

did you know, we had Japanese TV station filming us all day at the confrence in london 🙂

[/quote]

Was that when you guys were interviewing Yvonne Ridly?

MuslimSister — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 11:48

[quote="Darth V-Hayder"]
but they were at the stall for hge most part of the day
[/quote]

:?:

I didnt notice a bunch of japenese guys hanging around the stall with camera's?

Sirus — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 11:51

there was

i dont think you were stood at the stall at that time

you came later, when they had either got off or moved around

same ones who did an interview with Ed lot earlier in the week

judda — Wed, 7 Dec 2005 - 14:16

I asked a kafir friend of mine how they would handle the “terrorism” problem…
[quote]Well I think the operating word there is "handle." Terrorism won't ever go away but its frequency, damage, and effects can be dampened with a few steps. We need a change in doctrine in how we fight war to make political considerations and not military considerations the primary result. We need to prevent situations in which terrorism grows and thrives - such as failed states, and this can be done through more open trade negotiations. We also need a stronger more proactive international security community willing to integrate police forces across the world - since on the ground level this really is best handled by policing rather than military means. I think some wise steps in the near future for my country would be joining the trilateral commissions North American security zone which would open borders, trade, and integrate security between canada the US and Mexico.

There is a lot that needs to be done... can't really answer it without an indepth discussion and consideration of present steps being taken.[/quote]
Is that a logical solution?

*DUST* — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 12:15

[quote="Judda"]idiot :roll:

i knew them all 8)[/quote]
well forgive him for not being into ladies clothing... 😛 😉

btw Judda check out the link i posted and then tell me the media is still turning against the muslims!

judda — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 12:18

hey i dont have enuff time 2 read da link above... give me a brief summery of it all...

all the stuff i have sed in my 1st post are what i heard on the global unity event...

*DUST* — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 13:28

[quote="Judda"]hey i dont have enuff time 2 read da link above... give me a brief summery of it all...

all the stuff i have sed in my 1st post are what i heard on the global unity event...[/quote]
it wud help if u clicked on the link! :roll: that way ud realise its not just an article to read, but an entire SECTION of the BBC on Muslims in Europe!!

*DUST* — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 13:57

:roll:

yes, they are SO biased they are giving the chance to European Muslims to voice their own views and interact with the general public online.

:roll:

judda — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 14:10

on-line only :roll:

the 6 o clock news is biased

so is trever mcdonald

so is BBC News 24

judda — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 14:20

[quote="100man"]I perceive a radically left-leaning, pro-Muslim bias.[/quote]

huh?

well the BBC NEVER EVER speak up about the stuff Palastinians have to go through in thier day to day life, infact they make the Israilies sound like victims! Then they try to blame our imams/Mosques/Madrassahs when suacide bombings in Israil happen. They also want to shut our Mosques down. They NEVER EVER show the mess they have created of Iraq...etc. etc. etc.

100man — Fri, 9 Dec 2005 - 14:21

[quote="Judda"][quote="100man"]I perceive a radically left-leaning, pro-Muslim bias.[/quote]

huh?

well the BBC NEVER EVER speak up about the shit Palastinians have to go through in thier day to day life, infact they make the Israilies sound like victims! Then they try to blame our imams/Mosques/Madrassahs when suacide bombings in Israil happen. They also want to shut our Mosques down. They NEVER EVER show the mess they have created of Iraq...etc. etc. etc.[/quote]

The BBC? Have you ever actually watched it?