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Gangsta โ€”

IS IT TRU DAT ALKY WAS OK 2 DRINK?

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Beast โ€” Mon, 5 Dec 2005 - 15:15

What time period are you talking about?

Gangsta โ€” Mon, 5 Dec 2005 - 15:16

LNG B4 I WZ BORN ๐Ÿ™

Beast โ€” Mon, 5 Dec 2005 - 15:19

It is confusing to say that alcohol used to be allowed.

People used to drink it.

But then the Quran told them to stop.

Angel โ€” Mon, 5 Dec 2005 - 21:48

When certain revelations hadnt come down it wasnt required to fulfill ie. the commandment for hijab but there is no point thinkin bout whether it was allowed then or not, its not allowed now as it is declared haram in the Quran...

Gangsta โ€” Thu, 8 Dec 2005 - 09:04

yeh fort so. js gt confused wiv stuf ppl bin sayin 2 me

Mujahidah โ€” Thu, 5 Jan 2006 - 09:31

[quote="Gangsta"]yeh tried it hu hznt??[/quote]

[color=blue][b]A true Muslim :roll: [/b][/color]

Mujahidah โ€” Thu, 5 Jan 2006 - 09:37

[quote="Gangsta"]wt u a tru muslim?[/quote]

[color=blue][b]I've never drank alcohol n never will as it is clearly forbidden by Allah n also stated in the Holy Qur'an.

Whether im a true sincere Muslim only Allah (SWT) n His Beloved ๏ทบ is aware of dat :roll: [/b][/color]

star โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:22

[quote="Mujahidah"][color=blue][b]Whether im a true sincere Muslim only Allah (SWT) n His Beloved ๏ทบ is aware of dat :roll: [/b][/color][/quote]

you mean only ALLAH is aware of that..

Dawud โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:27

[quote="naj"][quote="Mujahidah"][color=blue][b]Whether im a true sincere Muslim only Allah (SWT) n His Beloved ๏ทบ is aware of dat :roll: [/b][/color][/quote]

you mean only ALLAH is aware of that..[/quote]

I don't think she does, Aqueeda issue you understand.

I think you know what happens when we disagree over these things. Right. ๐Ÿ™

star โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:29

oh yea....nawt wrong with correcting yea?

You โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:30

what is the point of making it into an aqeedah issue?

Just say that 'Allah (swt) is aware of that. and if He (swt) wills, his Beloved ๏ทบ is also aware of that.'

star โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:38

just that...some people hold the erroneous view that ALLAH has granted the holy prophet mohammed s.a.w complete power over his creation,,

people do ascribe these exclusive qualities of ALLAH unto the prophet.

naaa not referring to anyone here...know some people personally

Dawud โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:42

Its alright...I don't think Omrow is online..Mwahaha.

๐Ÿ˜‚

Don't worry about it, you were justified in putting what you thought, nothing sectarian about it. 8)

star โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:47

yea ur right hehehe....naa its kool

You โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:48

The diference is that one of those knowledges is given from the creator to the created.

Allah (swt) taught the Prophet ๏ทบ directly. We cannot limit what Allah (swt) taught, as then we are sayign that Allah(swt) cannot give his knowledge...

At the same time we cannot say the Prophet (saw)'s knowledge is from himself, and not given to him by his creator.

Making a wild guess at what Allah (swt) taught, or did not teach is wrong.

He may have given ALL knowledge. He may not have. Allahu A'lam. and by giving knowledge to the Prophet (saw), wa rasuluhu A'lam.

In short if we say that Allah could not have given the Prophet ๏ทบ all knowledge, we are saying he is not all powerful. If we say that the knowledge of the Prophet is gained not from Allah, then that is shirk. What the truth of it is, we do not know. as an example Alif Laam Miim. what does it mean? we do not know. but it was not put there just to confuddle people. It has a reason. The Prophet ๏ทบ would know.

star โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:54

ok admin.... everyone holds different views

You โ€” Sat, 7 Jan 2006 - 19:59

[quote="naj"]ok admin.... everyone holds different views[/quote]

Actually the above is held by all scholars of most sects. The assumptions made later are different between groups.

But offtopic by me. Sorry.

lets go back to alkyland.

Dave โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 01:48

Cool!

Since i'm the only person here who can drink I think I will tell you everything you need to know about wine.

First things first - red wine goes with red food. Never drink red wine with any sort of fish (short of shark, mahi mahi, or swordfish) and never drink red wine with a salad, it's tacky and ridiculous.

Red meats, and virtually everything but pork should do nicely - stay away from desserts (that's what dessert wines are for - we'll get to that), almost any soup I can think of - especially if they are creamy should go nicely with red wine.

Nothing brothy - in fact just skip all alcohol with brothy soup.

Merlot, Cabernet, are all pretty much safe "common" red wines that won't offend anyone (though they might find you a bit tacky)

Claret is a step up and if you are really feeling classy Petrus will definitely take the cake.

White wine is good with all sea food, salads, and pork (pork [i]could[/i] in theory work with red wine, just as Lobster could in theory work with white wine (as it is sea food) but it's best not to get caught up in this rather murky water and stick to what's safe).

Chardonnay is the staple here for day to day sort of stuff, it's difficult to find something a little classier since there is a broad selection and I am less familiar with white wines.

Dessert wines are particularly tricky. Port, Madeira and like fortified wines work well with shortbreads cakes and things in that line, don't bother with Champagne - that's tacky and absurd (but I understand a bit modern), really that should be served with the seventh cheese course at a formal dinner, or by itself in most other situations.

There you go - everything you never wanted to know about wine, and will (with the exception of Gangsta) never use.

[size=9]Does anybody else find this thread a bit useless?[/size]

You โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:10

I try to refrain from useless knowledge.

The above is useless to me, so hold your high horse for a bit!

:twisted:

Dave โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:18

[quote="Admin"]I try to refrain from useless knowledge.

The above is useless to me, so hold your high horse for a bit!

:twisted:[/quote]

My whole post was useless?!!!!

omg i've never been so insulted in all my life!

[size=7]I'd like to tell you a bedtime story. Imagine a world with a young man named Dave in it. Imagine that this boy was the most sarcastic person in the entire universe - so sarcastic he would dedicate seven minutes and thirteen seconds to an article about wine that he knew would be of absolutely no value to his audience, because he thought it might be the most personally entertaining way to demonstrate the larger message of how useless the entire thread is, which he actually typed out in a single sentance.

Could this be more than a fairytale?

I don't know...[/size]

You โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:26

ok I get your point.

what do you want me to do? delete the topics? put a message on them?

'This topic does not meet the DonKarnage seal of Approval - it has been removed.'

Do some work. You are using us as an excuse not to do any work.

at uni and college everyone had to be asleep before I could convince myself to open a book.

By that time I would be too sleepy to study... or it would be time for HardTalk on BBC News24.

Dave โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:34

lol here's the problem.

I can't relax because I have to work, so I have to be near school - thus I invite myself over to my cousins house, which annoys them.

I can't work because to work I have to be connected to the internet and I keep coming back here which annoys you.

I can't stick around because I get homesick posting on this forum (don't know why).

And when I drive back I drive Annette insane talking about how much work i'm not doing.

You โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:39

you sir, certainly have a problem.

I know how distracting these forums are.

I was to do ALOT of work today. I have done none. But for me that is not unusual...

Dave โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 02:50

So when do you normally get work done?

You โ€” Sun, 8 Jan 2006 - 04:19

[quote="Don Karnage"]So when do you normally get work done?[/quote]

At Uni and college, EVERYONE had to be asleep. Nothing to disturb me.

Once I get going then I can handle disturbances, but at the start i have to have nothing whatsoever that can distract me.

I am a night owl, ut at the moment I am working during the day. I cannot sleep at night...

I would love to do some nightshift work. Perfect for me. Its when I am awake.

Oh, and another interesting thing. an owl is wise in western culture, but stupid in pakistani culture! here you say the wise owl... over there calling someone an owl means you are calling them a fool.