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lol bring your cell phone and they might burn you as a witch
LOL
I dont need to bring my mobile phone
I just need to start talking about women's liberation and I'd prob get burned :roll:
A Witch, A Witch!!!
lol you got a good point there dave
im not very superstitious, half the time its in peoples heads
but that video wasnt in pakistan, the language i dont recognise
seems something eastern european or russian
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
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lol well whatever it is it's pretty fake imo, same with the "russian exorcism"
The Anneliese Michel audio got my attention though - still think it's fake.
that was freaky! I hate the person who sent it to me (u know who u r :x )
It was a bit scary goin to sleep last night cuz sis stayed in my cuz's house but good thing was i was so tired i went to sleep a quicker
ANGEL!
What wonderful timing both me and Hayder (SuperTed) are on.
And waiting for our apologies SNOBBY PRINCESS - per our agreement.
Well then - have at it!
[EDIT BY ADMIN]
Dave can ypu stick to topic.
We do not stick to to the topic enough, and have already recieved some PMs today asking me to enforce the topic...
Hayder... the authenticity of that video is questionable... you cant tell from the video where its from as all you see is a girl wearing a headscarf being held down on a what appears to be a red carpet, assuming exorcism take place in mosques... in places in the east they dont hav carpets in mosques they would hav a heck of a time cleaning them all the time due to dust etc. So possibly in the west or somewhere that has a colder climate. The only other thing is the guys holding her down is wearing gloves... becoz its cold... doubtful... perhaps the girl bites... who knows?
Dave... the first video had soo many holes in it. Not only is he supposedly exorcising demons/evil spirits he's also healing crippled men... or a women dying of cancer... wat is he Jesus Christ (pbuh)?
The second recording is of such a low quality you can barely make anything out other than 3 things. Firstly the chanting in the background... i cant seem to make out what it is they're saying. secondly you can hear scream/groans and hissing... and lastly the person recording the audio moving around. Other than that... its just noise.
The number of possession cases are usually higher in such places as Pakistan, backwoods of Russian, USA etc becoz theses people barely have propper facilities to treat ill people and are really religious or give in to cultural superstition. So i agree with you that due to a lack of propper psychological care people mis-interpretate their conditions as supernatural.
Still interesting material...
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I wouldnt use the phrase "get on"...
witches and witch doctors hav been known to "use" Jinns to do their bidding.
The Jinns do not do soo willingly... as far as im aware they are usually captured by the witch and made to do their bidding.
Hope that helps.
[size=5]hhmmm thats disturbing... why do i know that?[/size]
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Guys there's no such things as witches. :?
Posessions really do happen and one happened to one of my close relative! He's about 19 years old who went back to pakistan for a few weeks with his dad for a holiday and in there house there was a very old tree, which the father thought he would cut it down, which he did. The son kicked one of the branches of the tree and strange things started happening. He began to get fits, some other voice other than his began to talk, nobody could control him and then all of a sudden it went calm again, this carried on for a few days until the father took him to a priest ( a peer) who managed to get the jinn talking, the jinn said the boy kicked the tree (this is when they found out when he was possessed) where they lived and won't leave the boy....to cut a long stroy short, the priest told the jinn to leave the boy or else, the boy returned back here and has been ok since then.....
The best preacher is the conscience, the best teachers are time and experience, the best book is the world, the best friend is God
That has got nothing to do with witches.
Alot of people use djinns etc as excuses.
and as MS said witches do not exist.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Admin, do I give a hoot if that has anything to do with witches? So I guess you have met these people and have the inside knowledge!??
Some Admin you are, my little kid has more intellect than your post show about you.
The best preacher is the conscience, the best teachers are time and experience, the best book is the world, the best friend is God
If he wants the job, he knows where to apply!
I was following the conversation. MS said no such thing as witches. Next post is you talking about posessions. I was not aware you were not referring to above post.
My apologies. There. In writing!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
No problem, I will do when he gets your age, which shouldn't be long now
Anyway, for people who want to know more about jinns then please go to this link:
http://www.islamawareness.net/Jinn/
As regards to witches, I'm sure someone must have seen one, I see one everyday...
The best preacher is the conscience, the best teachers are time and experience, the best book is the world, the best friend is God
i dunno some-one mentioned witches are the female jinns, they call em
(churayls) in punjabi or somat.
a witch is a human.
female Djinn? lets stick to djinn for them both.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I stopped believing in witches after I read Roald dahl book on he WITCHES aged 10
What are you people like? hhmmm
Okay... firstly, i use the term 'witch' im not talking pointed hat, bed knobs and broomsticks, but more as a generalisation covering a wide number of people e.g. pagans, wiccans, witchdoctors etc. My own fault i should have said so.
Secondly i dont think there are female Jinns... altho experience has taught me that just bcoz i havent come across anything in regards to female Jinns doesnt necessarily mean they dont exist. So im quite devided on that, never heard of female jinns or mention of, but doesnt mean they dont exist.
naj... i seriously doubt churayls are female versions of jinns. Mostly superstition i bet. But no smoke without fire right.
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I agree with Seraphims definition of witches, viz women who engage in witchcraft/ dark arts/ paganism etc.
Female and male jinn exist. How else do they procreate? How else do they have such large population?
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
med i thought you thought of em ya know with the broom ..couldron frogs...potions etc..
i dunno...i heard that of someone, i believed it....and another thing they mentioned was the feet of the churayls are the other way around..?
actually yeh. I do. Its the african witches who are stick needles in voodoo dolls and dig up bodies and stuff. The goryfyed witches try to fly on broomsticks and go around kissing ugly slimy frogs in the hope that they become charming princes.
Some people cant see whats infront of em.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
As med said... witches are simply women (usually but doesnt hav to be women) practicing some form of witchcraft... be it White Magic, Grey Magic, Black Magic, Voodoo Magic.
In regards to them having backward feet etc or other disfigoured features is the result of two things: firstly they were born that way, or they're that emersed into the dark arts that its beginning to affect their physical appearance.
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In the past women were burned at the stake and wrongly accused of being witches at the most minor things.
We've come a long way since then.
In UK yeh but there was documentary on sky last week about indian ''witches'' who are killed by their community. Something abt TB or typhoid spreading in the village and they blamed the widow who had no family. Sad. Very Sad.
Ya ALLAH Madad.
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there's no such thing as a male 'witch' - the male equivalent is 'warlock'.
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u mean in the US. ever heard of Salem?
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yeh, he's da cat in sabrina da teenage witch innit?
lol.
Seriously I have heard abt salem witch trials but in medieval times they also would burn convicted witches at the stake in england. And the trials they had to endure are quite famous - throwing her in a lake of blessed water, if she was innocent the water would accept her and she would sink/drown and if she was guilty then the holy water would not accept such a devilish woman and the witch would float on top and be taken off and killed.
Remember, Med is short for Medievalist and I dont call myself medievalist for nawt!
Ya ALLAH Madad.
Haq Chaar Yaar
yeh i remember learning that in my year 7 (or 8, cant remember) history lessons!
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Ever heard the term Witchdoctor... usually a male... doesnt hav to be female.
Its all part of the circle of life...
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