Sexually perverted relatives

Medarris —

This is a serious issue and requires serious thought. I am specifically referring to homosexuality but shall refer to it as sexual perversion because I dont like the other word.

Now the issue is as follows. A person has known for about a year that one of his relatives female practices actively sexual perversion. He found out quite by accident but is absolutely certain that the issue is not mere rumour and that the person involved is actively practicing the sexual perversion. A year has elapsed. The person has not informed the relative that he knows her dirrty secret, only two other people know about this most shameful thing and they are the real brothers of the person who knows. Ie three brothers are aware of this fact and no1 else knows.

When the person found out his immediate reaction was to go and ask his imam about what he should do and was all geared up to ask but his shame got the better of him. The issue is so shameful that the person was even shy to go and mention such things to the imam to ask for advice about what he should do.

What do you think he should do?

At the moment, there is no major problem. The person who does this perversion is a strange relation (ghayr mahram female) and as the person does not speak beyond salaam with even female cousins he doesnt get any deep topics with the person. At the moment he gives salaam and leaves it there.

Should he confront the woman?
Should he inform her brothers and mother?
Should he just ignore it and leave her to it?

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Beast — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:31

[quote="Medievalist"]Lol! Its not us who are obsessed with halwa its 'them'![/quote]

The only people who have mentioned it on this forum are you and Abdus.

The only Deobandis on this forum are you and Abdus.

MuslimSisLilSis — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:32

[quote="Admin"]

Lesbianism/homosexuality is not a natural state of existence. It needs something to fuel it. For example mental instability. I was asking wether the lack of activity may have been the fuel.

.[/quote]

i agree

and in many cases counselling is the answer

not condemnation from Mufti wannbe men :roll:

MuslimSisLilSis — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:35

[quote="Admin"]condemning the acts is also needed.[/quote]

yep

ur right-if men started to call her an "ugly, dirty lesbian" she'll start to prefer men again :roll:

Seraphim — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:37

[quote="irfghan"][quote="Medievalist"]Lol! Its not us who are obsessed with halwa its 'them'![/quote]

The only people who have mentioned it on this forum are you and Abdus.

The only Deobandis on this forum are you and Abdus.[/quote]

I cant stand halwa... nope totally went off it ages ago. An auntie made me eat it once... i wasnt a happy chappy. :evil:

I dont think anything short of kindness to these women may bring them back.

You — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:38

There are ways to condemn.

I think all/any useful posts have already been made, so it high time to leave this topic.

You — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:40

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]no ur wrong

Islam is all about having the "them" and "us" mentality

"them" being the ones who eat Halwa on Thursday :roll:[/quote]

and 'us' who eat it on saturday?

what about 'me'?

are 'me' who don't like halwa?

and 'em who like halwa?

Beast — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:42

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"][quote="Admin"]condemning the acts is also needed.[/quote]
[/quote]

I've heard that the act is condemned. But those who genuinely beleive that they are attracted to the same sex should be treated and er... 're-programmed'.

Seraphim — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:42

[quote="Admin"][quote="MuslimSisLilSis"]no ur wrong

Islam is all about having the "them" and "us" mentality

"them" being the ones who eat Halwa on Thursday :roll:[/quote]

and 'us' who eat it on saturday?

what about 'me'?

are 'me' who don't like halwa?

and 'em who like halwa?[/quote]

wait a min...

if by "them" you mean those who eat it on a Thursday.

and admins lot eat it on a Sat....

whose lot am i in then? I dont ever eat it?

MuslimSisLilSis — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:43

[quote="Seraph"]

I dont think anything short of kindness to these women may bring them back.[/quote]

te girl that i read about

received counselling and love from her parents

and she was back on the right track

but some guys think that name calling and abuse is the answer :roll:

Beast — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:44

[quote="Seraph"]
I cant stand halwa... nope totally went off it ages ago. An auntie made me eat it once... i wasnt a happy chappy. :evil:

I dont think anything short of kindness to these women may bring them back.[/quote]

I've only ever had one good plate of halwa. Unforgetable.

Everyother time I can just about handle a spoonful.

You — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:45

'admins lot eat it on satuday'

what? I am part of the 'me' lot. named after me. the 'me' lot don't like halwa. cannae stand it.

You — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:47

[quote="MuslimSisLilSis"][quote="Seraph"]
I dont think anything short of kindness to these women may bring them back.[/quote]

te girl that i read about

received counselling and love from her parents

and she was back on the right track

but some guys think that name calling and abuse is the answer :roll:[/quote]

abuse in no circumstance is acceptable in Islam. In any situation.

MuslimSisLilSis — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:47

[quote="irfghan"]

Everyother time I can just about handle a spoonful.[/quote]

same here

that stuff is just too rich

and I can only take a spoonful of the carrot one

cant stand any other type

Seraphim — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:52

[quote="Darth Hayder"]had halwa puri?[/quote]

yep cant stand that either...

sorry...

Give me keer anyday... mmmhhh 😃

Sirus — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:54

lol....me no likes Halwa that much....(cant stand the bits in it, not as much the halwa)

KEER IS EWWWWWWW :shock:

sawayyai aint 2 bad

Medarris — Sat, 3 Sep 2005 - 22:54

LOOOOOOOOOOL!

ALL the above posts prove what I mean by 'them''.

Lol mention halwa and all the halwa-lovers come crawling out and narrating their memories and experiences!

(Saying this in light hearted manner, any ppl who want to start an arguement ur wasting ur breath)

I wont be unjust. Halwa is ok in small amounts but some halwa is totally off limits for me.

Bread halwa is not to my taste.
Pumpkin halwa is ok when its still warm and runny.
Gajrela is nice even after reheating.

But thats it.

Angel — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 00:27

[quote="Darth Hayder"]lol....me no likes Halwa that much....(cant stand the bits in it, not as much the halwa)

KEER IS EWWWWWWW :shock:

sawayyai aint 2 bad[/quote]

keer is yum, my makes the best and halwa is ok not my thing if its made i dont eat it but if i was to go out and was offered would probs take a wee bit but otherwise if i had a choice i wouldnt eat it.

Beast — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 12:07

She doesn't have to be forcibly married. Just presented with the idea of marriage.

In order to get out of it she may have to come out of the closet.

Seraphim — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 13:12

[quote="irfghan"]She doesn't have to be forcibly married. Just presented with the idea of marriage.

In order to get out of it she may have to come out of the closet.[/quote]

And make some keer in the process... im sure that'll soften the blow.

Medarris — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 17:40

she is 30+. Which man is gonna wanna marry her?

Nah im just gonna bide my time and reveal the whole truth when i get my own house. Y'know if i was really evil I wud start blackmailing her, muahahaha, but thats not very nice is it?

MuslimSisLilSis — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 17:45

[quote="irfghan"]She doesn't have to be forcibly married. Just presented with the idea of marriage.

In order to get out of it she may have to come out of the closet.[/quote]

such people end up having "marraiges of convenince" and end up ruining other peoples lives

first a person needs to get straight before they can enter a straight relationship

Medarris — Sun, 4 Sep 2005 - 18:08

when i mentioned marriage of convenience i dont think i explained it.

By her the type of MoC she wanted to do was with a Ho mo Sex ual ''muslim'' man. Apparently there are websites dedicated to ''gay muslims'' findin marriage partners for MoC. So this is HOW FAR she has gone on the path to her deception.