Zina of the Eyes

Muslimeen —

It is amazing how we abuse our sight on a daily basis and don't even seem to realise it.

It is one of those sins that is so easy to commit that absolutely not effort is required especially in a non muslim country, not that it is difficult in a muslim country. Everywhere you look there is nudity, we have become so accustomed to it that it's just a part of life. You don't have to be young either, you can be in you 80's with one leg in the grave and the other on a banana peel but still you can commit this sin just as easily as an 18 year old.

May Allah Swt firstly open my eyes to this reality and grant me the taufiq to refrain from this evil as well as every believing muslim. Ameen.

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Bilan — Fri, 27 May 2011 - 00:27

[quote=Lilly][quote=bilan]LOL. tackicha thinks this site is overloaded with OAPs! haha. nice going Lills! :p[/quote]

OAP's: Original Awesome Parta WYE ers?

she would be right!! and yes i take FULL credit.[/quote]

Nice one!

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 17:59

Just reading a book which says every glance at a guy/girl etc is harmful (cant argue with that)and that if a person has pre-marital relationships they would compare that to their marriage and may not be satisfied, which could be true. But it also says people would compare them with models, celebs etc which seems like a pretty silly thing to do. :/

s.b.f — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:13

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]Just reading a book which says every glance at a guy/girl etc is harmful (cant argue with that)[/quote]

because?

definiton of a glance is to take a brief and hurried look. Seriously.

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:16

[quote=s.b.f][quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]Just reading a book which says every glance at a guy/girl etc is harmful (cant argue with that)[/quote]

because?

definiton of a glance is to take a brief and hurried look. Seriously.[/quote]
😂 sorry, just 'look' then

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:22

[quote=You](that guy is not a scholar)[/quote]
I was thinking the name sounds familiar - someone I've been warned about lol

But nah he's just describing a story/hadith, it's ok, nothing dodgy. I was going to copy and paste the text but thought people may prefer listening to it as it looks a little long, written.

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:30

{sigh} It wasn't that boring! lol

If anyone would prefer to read it:

There were three brothers from Bani Israel who were called upon to go on Jihad. These three brothers had a sister who did not have any one else to be taken care other that by them. They did not know under whose care could they leave the young woman. Then they thought that the most reasonable place to leave her was with the Abid (worshipper) because he was the most trusted man in town. Barsisa, the Abid was a man who used to be in a monastery devoted to worship of ALLAH.

So they went to him and said, ” We are being enlisted to go on Jihad and we want to leave our sister with you. We trust no one in town but you.”

Barsisa replied “Audhu billah, get away from me.” This was an Abid who was not married and he did not want to deal with these problems.

The brothers said, “We have no where else to leave our sister but with you. We don’t trust anyone else.”

So Shaytan came to Barsisa and said, “If u don’t accept, she might be left with somebody who might not be trustworthy.You have to step-up and take this responsibility.”

So Barsisa told the brothers, “Leave her in the empty house.” (which was seperate from the monastery where he was staying). The brothers then left her there and went on Jihad.

After that, Barsisa the Abid used to leave food at his doorstep and the young woman had to come out of her house and walk all the way to take the food from his doorstep. Barsisa never used to leave from his monastery. Barsisa had never met her and they were not seeing each other. Days passed by like this.

One day, Shaytan came to Barsisa and said, “Somebody might see her when she is walking out. So rather than have her leave from her house. You need to carry it and leave at her doorstep.” So he started leaving the food at her doorstep. This happened for many days.

Again one day, Shaytan came to Barsisa and said, “You can’t just leave the food at her doorstep. Somebody might see her when she opens the door and she is very beautiful. You would have to take the food and leave it inside her room.” So Barsisa would go and knock on the door. She would open and he would walk inside and leave the food there. That continued for a while.

Then again one day Shaytan said, “You can’t leave this poor woman alone without giving her any company. Nobody is speaking to her. So she may be feeling very lonely and that might lead to haram. So why don’t you go and talk to her from behind the door.” Barsisa liked the idea and so for a while he would sit outside and just talk to her for HOURS. Slowly and slowly the relationship was building up and Shaytan was finding it easier to drag him to the next step.

Shaytan then came and said, “You can’t just sit there talking to her, people might see you. You need to go inside, just sit in another room without looking at her and talk to her.” So for sometime that is what he did. Slowly she started getting closer to him and everytime they got more and more close to the extent that eventually he comitted zina (fornication) with her.

So the Abid, the worshipper who devoted his life to service in the monastery comitted zina. Because of that, she became pregnant and delivered a boy.

Then Shaytan came to Barsisa and said,”Now when the brothers come back and find out that their sister has a child you are going to be in big trouble. The only way for you to put an end to this issue is to kill the baby.” Barsisa followed the advice of Shaytan and killed the child.

But it didn’t end there. Shaytan came to him and said, “Do you think that this woman will keep the secret after you kill her own child? The only way out is to kill her.” So Barsisa killed her and burried both mother and child in a certain location inside the house.

Later the brothers came back and inquired about their sister. Barsisa gave some reason and said, “She had passed away and this is where she is burried.” Saying that he pointed to a false grave.

Then Shaytan went to the brothers and made them see a dream. In that dream they were told that Barsisa killed their sister and the proof was that she was burried in a different location (i.e. under the rock inside the house).

When the brothers woke up they started talking to each other and found out that they all had seen the same dream. They thought that there must be some truth in it. So they went and uncovered the grave which Barsisa had pointed to and found it empty. Then they went inside the house and found the rock as mentioned in the dream. On digging underneath the rock they found their sister’s dead body along with that of the child.

So they went to Barsisa and forced him to disclose the secret of what happened. He went ahead and told them the whole story. The three brothers took Barsisa to the king’s court and he was given punishment of execution.

While Barsisa was being dragged to his execution spot, Shaytan came to him and said, “Listen Barsisa I am Shaytan and it was me who was in communication with you since this whole thing started and not your inner thoughts. Now I can get you out of this trouble if you want. I am the one who put you in this trouble in the first place and I can get you out of it.”

Barsisa asked, “What should I do?”

Shaytan said, “Do sujood to me and I will save you.”

Thus Barsisa, once the most righteous worshippers of his time, died bowing down to shaytan.

s.b.f — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:32

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE][quote=s.b.f][quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]Just reading a book which says every glance at a guy/girl etc is harmful (cant argue with that)[/quote]

because?

definiton of a glance is to take a brief and hurried look. Seriously.[/quote]
😂 sorry, just 'look' then[/quote]

Assuming that the intention behind the look is assessed.

You — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 18:56

staring as opposed to an initial glance.

(though even in that case, one must remember that it is NOT the same as actual zina)

Foysol89 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 23:27

I remember this story.

Morale of the story IMO is to try and stay from anything that can lead to a sin. Cause even the most pious muslim can fall into the traps of the shaytaan.

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 23:32

Yes indeed.
"And do not come close to zina, for indeed it is an indecent thing and an evil way.
[qs:17:32]

TPOS — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 23:38

Could we not keep it at "LOWER YOUR GAZE" instead of bringing marriage into it {sigh} 😃

You — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 - 23:40

celibacy is not the approved path, marriage is. (Mayby because the first is so prone to failure in many many utterly evil ways)

malik — Sun, 3 Jul 2011 - 20:36

Ulema say it is forbidden to look at
true believing women with lustful eyes, not kafirs.

malik — Sun, 3 Jul 2011 - 21:03

A Salafi Moulana Zakir al Madani spoke in Birmingham mosque and said honour of kafirs is not for muslims to protect. Obviously that means you can go out with disbelievers and not seek permission of their parents. They dont need to know coz they dont care anyway.
But you cannot do that with believers in Allah. You need consent of their wali.
Is that true? Does hadith or Quran back this up?

You — Sun, 3 Jul 2011 - 21:45

No idea why he said that, but no, it does not mean what you say.

It is not JUST about honour.

What is wrong is wrong is wrong.

Find me actual scholars who say what you said. They do not have to be sunni, but can be mainstream shia too.

Leave no room to your interpretation.

Because your interpretation of what he said here is not what his would have been.

Bilan — Sun, 3 Jul 2011 - 22:08

[quote=You]No idea why he said that, but no, it does not mean what you say.

It is not JUST about honour.

What is wrong is wrong is wrong.

Find me actual scholars who say what you said. They do not have to be sunni, but can be mainstream shia too.

Leave no room to your interpretation.[/quote]

+1! thats just crazy!

LookingToSee — Sun, 3 Jul 2011 - 23:26

WOUAH! crazyness OVERLOAD!!!! System failure. BEEP BEEP BEEP Automatic Shutdown BEEP BEEP BEEP

wtfRICK was THAT?!

so you can perv and date non-muslims? What the frick what the frick what the frick...

salk (not verified) — Tue, 1 Nov 2011 - 14:29

which u like for yourself u should like it for others ..it is a the criteria of muslim .now you like to see pornography ,do u like that your father ,mother ,brother ,sister also watch pornography or the horny things?

And RAsulullah (pbuh) said the sin is the 'thing'(work/activity) that u do not want to let others to know.. if u think as u do not think there is no problem to see horny thing and pornography..i think your parents and your relatives every body know that you watch pornography.

third thing to fulfill your Desirae in a haram way is a sin .fulfill your desire in a halal way..

and if u are not a muslim , come to iman first.we the muslim follow the Allah's order we do not ask why he ordered this .Allah says in the quran "do not even go near to the same full work(fornication/adultery) "..watching looly wood dance of those prostitute is a near to the same full work.jajkAllah khaier

The Lamp — Tue, 1 Nov 2011 - 17:52

[quote=salk]
and if u are not a muslim , come to iman first.we the muslim follow the Allah's order we do not ask why he ordered this .Allah says in the quran "do not even go near to the same full work(fornication/adultery) "..watching looly wood dance of those prostitute is a near to the same full work.jajkAllah khaier[/quote]

Salam

Could you please give the quote reference? For educational use.
Secondly, it's a bad idea to tell people to not question, it'll push them away and make it seem as though Islam has something to hide. If YOU don't know the answer, then that's a different issue, you should try and find out.