Acid blinding sentence postponed by Iran after international outcry

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Eye-for-an-eye punishment of Majid Movahedi put on hold despite calls by his disfigured victim, Ameneh Bahrami, for retribution


[size=10]Ameneh Bahrami holds a photo showing herself before she was blinded with acid by Majid Movahedi. Photograph: Lluis Gene/AFP/Getty Images[/size]

Iran has postponed blinding a man with acid following an international outcry over the retributive punishment imposed after he was found guilty of doing the same to a woman who refused to marry him.

In a literal application of the sharia law of an eye for an eye, Majid Movahedi was scheduled to be rendered unconscious in Tehran's judiciary hospital today while his victim, Ameneh Bahrami, dropped acid in both his eyes.

But Iran's semi-official ISNA news agency reported that officials had postponed the sentence on Friday night and not indicated when the punishment might be carried out in future.

Bahrami, who had asked for an eye-for-an-eye retribution in a criminal court in Tehran, was not informed of the postponement.

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Bilan — Sun, 15 May 2011 - 21:08

I rlly dont like reading stories like these, i rlly dont.

Picked up the metro on the way to uni after not reading it for 2 weeks and it just made me feel horrible! and i didnt even get through half of it...

HarajukuDoll — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 19:19

Oh my...
I think I feel sick. That dude SHOULD be punished. Okay judging from what that article say and nothing else, anyone that sick and twisted SHOULD be punished.
However the whole 'eye for an eye' thing is pretty difficult to do, I learnt that Islam states that you retaliate ExACTLY the same way the person hurt you. How is it possible for a person to pour acid or whatever in the exact same place, at the exact same aim and force etc etc?
I hope that made sense, I have a habit of making simple things complicated. xD

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 19:47

[quote=You]
Forgiveness is a better option.
[/quote]

How could anyone say that man?
Forgiveness will never bring the persons eye sight back, If they was to take revenge the same way and blind there attacker then maybe the attacker will understand what he or she has done wrong to the other person if they were simple to forgive the attacker then they will not learn there lesson and may do it to someone else in future

HarajukuDoll — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:05

Hm, true. That's why Islam gives the option of retaliation. However if a person was to love Allah so much, retaliation would not occur to them, rather forgiving would, as they would put Allah's pleasure first and foremost. Think about the event of Taif and the Prophet ﷺ reaction. Beautiful!! 😃

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:13

[quote=HarajukuDoll]Hm, true. That's why Islam gives the option of retaliation. However if a person was to love Allah so much, retaliation would not occur to them, rather forgiving would, as they would put Allah's pleasure first and foremost. Think about the event of Taif and the Prophet ﷺ reaction. Beautiful!! :D[/quote]

We are not in the times of Prophet anymore things have changed

TPOS — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:14

[quote=stopincest]
We are not in the times of Prophet anymore things have changed[/quote]
The Prophet ﷺ is the Prophet and the perfect exame for the Whole of Humanity - his example can still be followed.

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:16

[quote=You]It's not always easy, but it is possible.[/quote]

Of course it's possible but the victim would only forgive because of religious reasons and may not have inner satisfaction

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:25

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE][quote=stopincest]
We are not in the times of Prophet anymore things have changed[/quote]
The Prophet ﷺ is the Prophet and the perfect exame for the Whole of Humanity - his example can still be followed.[/quote]

Its very hard in this day and age

TPOS — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:28

[quote=stopincest][quote=You]So is it correct to assume you have never forgiven anyone anything ever?[/quote]

I don't think there has ever been a need as yet[/quote]
Is that cuz you've never been wronged, or you prefer revenge?

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:28

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]If you don't have inner satisfaction, then you might not have forgiven properly?[/quote]

How could you have inner satisfaction in forgiving someone who has blinded you for the rest of your life?

TPOS — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:31

You probably couldn't, I don't know, that's why it was posed as a question 🙂

but:

[quote=HarajukuDoll]Hm, true. That's why Islam gives the option of retaliation. However if a person was to love Allah so much, retaliation would not occur to them, rather forgiving would, as they would put Allah's pleasure first and foremost. Think about the event of Taif and the Prophet ﷺ reaction. Beautiful!! :D[/quote]

Would mean you have inner satisfaction, I think.

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:32

[quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE][quote=stopincest][quote=You]So is it correct to assume you have never forgiven anyone anything ever?[/quote]

I don't think there has ever been a need as yet[/quote]
Is that cuz you've never been wronged, or you prefer revenge?[/quote]

that would depend on case to case

You — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:35

[quote=stopincest][quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]If you don't have inner satisfaction, then you might not have forgiven properly?[/quote]

How could you have inner satisfaction in forgiving someone who has blinded you for the rest of your life?[/quote]

Through sympathy, where you don't want the person who wronged you to go through the same.

It has happened. Maybe not as easy when the person is blinded and scarred for life though, but forgiveness may not always be possible for a person to forgive for major things, but without forgiveness, the act can eat your innards and twist you sometimes.

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:37

[quote=HarajukuDoll]You have satisfaction in knowing you have become more beloved to Allah, no?[/quote]

No
How would you know that you have become more beloved to Allah ?

Would that not encourage the attacker to do that to someone else because he knows that he will be forgiven each time?

lollywood — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 20:43

[quote=You][quote=stopincest][quote=ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE]If you don't have inner satisfaction, then you might not have forgiven properly?[/quote]

How could you have inner satisfaction in forgiving someone who has blinded you for the rest of your life?[/quote]

Through sympathy, where you don't want the person who wronged you to go through the same.

It has happened. Maybe not as easy when the person is blinded and scarred for life though, but forgiveness may not always be possible for a person to forgive for major things, but without forgiveness, the act can eat your innards and twist you sometimes.[/quote]

Why would you not want them to go through the same thing as you?
They did not have any sympathy for you so why should you have any for them

HarajukuDoll — Wed, 18 May 2011 - 21:17

If you have the power to forgive a person for such a wrong, then you can NEVER be just as bad. Looking at the situation, who the heck does such a thing? This person had NO conscience whatsoever. For you to forgive such an action would mean being the better person.

The Lamp — Thu, 19 May 2011 - 14:31

Am I right in thinking that SI agrees with the sentence?
The thing is that forgiving is the best thing to do in some situations, getting revenge won't undo what's been done. On the other hand, showing mercy will mean the Creator will show mercy to you. Merciful people heal better and are generally more happy.

There was a test done (which was completely different to the acid incident) where a group of couples who always fought, swore and treated each other with a lack of respect their wounds healed alot slower than those who showed mercy.

In the words of Hector Barbosa: "Revenge won't bring your eyes/[insert lost thing] back."

You — Thu, 19 May 2011 - 18:28

I just want to be cleart about something...

Being compassionate and forgiving or reducing the sentence even in such cases is NOT about getting closer to God - God has given the permission to seek justice and the gifts taken away here were provided in the first place were by God.

So being forgiving in things is NOT about getting closer to God.

It is about closure.

The pursuit of justice can sometimes twist you and turn you and affect you in ways that will be detrimental to your character and happiness.

Sometimes it is best to let go.

On the other hand, it is her right to demand justice and even in that there is a lesson to others to not commit such crimes.

lollywood — Thu, 19 May 2011 - 19:04

[quote=HarajukuDoll]If you have the power to forgive a person for such a wrong, then you can NEVER be just as bad. Looking at the situation, who the heck does such a thing? This person had NO conscience whatsoever. For you to forgive such an action would mean being the better person.[/quote]

But then you may not have the power to forgive especially when the injury is life changing in a bad way

If you are going to be the better person and forgive then that person will think I got away with it this time so I will do this kind of thing again and again and in the end get away with it

In Saudi if you steel any thing they chop off one of your hands good I don't think the person is going to steel anything in a hurry 🙂