Can We As Humans Do Miracles?

Published by mush91 on 29 December, 2010 - 16:29

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Submitted by LookingToSee on 29 December, 2010 - 18:25

what do you mean by miracles?

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Submitted by TPOS on 29 December, 2010 - 19:05

I voted yes Smile

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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by LookingToSee on 29 December, 2010 - 19:13

i voted no.

my question is still pending.
What do you mean by miracles?

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Submitted by TPOS on 29 December, 2010 - 19:18

Lilly wrote:
i voted no.

my question is still pending.
What do you mean by miracles?


Since he hasn't verified and the answers are pretty vague too, you can make it mean whatever you want to Wink Blum 3
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by mush91 on 29 December, 2010 - 19:48

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Lilly wrote:
i voted no.

my question is still pending.
What do you mean by miracles?


Since he hasn't verified and the answers are pretty vague too, you can make it mean whatever you want to Wink Blum 3

yes yes i chose this answer
i really meant miracles miracles but lets see what everyones says
its a discussion to people

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Submitted by TPOS on 29 December, 2010 - 20:00

mush91 wrote:

i really meant miracles miracles

like?
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by Bilan on 29 December, 2010 - 20:40

i dont think people can perform miracles, nu-uh...

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"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

Submitted by Bilan on 29 December, 2010 - 21:03

Ocean wrote:
You mean Humans? then yes... All Prophets were Humans and I recall Prophetic work was quite miraculous, was it not? But then Prophets were special humans

ordinary humans? well it's all planned... so whatever we do is not really a miracle, isn't it just God's work?

Depends on what and how you see it. The more proud and egotistic people would just see it as JUST their hard work and then add God later on cos it feels right to do so.

So miracle is just a name that people give those circumstances that are quite positive and seem literally impossible and leave you with a face quite like :o and everyone around you joins in by saying "I can't believe it!"

Miracles and statistics

I would say that the miracles the prophets performed were also due to Allah (swt) and any other miracles...

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"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

Submitted by Bilan on 29 December, 2010 - 21:19

Ocean wrote:
bilan wrote:
Ocean wrote:
You mean Humans? then yes... All Prophets were Humans and I recall Prophetic work was quite miraculous, was it not? But then Prophets were special humans

ordinary humans? well it's all planned... so whatever we do is not really a miracle, isn't it just God's work?

Depends on what and how you see it. The more proud and egotistic people would just see it as JUST their hard work and then add God later on cos it feels right to do so.

So miracle is just a name that people give those circumstances that are quite positive and seem literally impossible and leave you with a face quite like :o and everyone around you joins in by saying "I can't believe it!"

Miracles and statistics

I would say that the miracles the prophets performed were also due to Allah (swt) and any other miracles...


My point precisely.

So yes Humans can and do perform "miracles" but only because Allah would have willed it.

yh i see what u mean, but i guess im a bit :doubt: about the actual wording of it...if you say human CAN perform miracles it seems as if humans naturally have the ability to do so, which......they dont. (does that make sense)

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"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

Submitted by You on 29 December, 2010 - 21:45

bilan wrote:
I would say that the miracles the prophets performed were also due to Allah (swt) and any other miracles...

That is not just miracles. That is every single act from breathing to sleeping to something even more mundane. It cannot be done without the will of God allowing/commanding it so.

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My reply is "yes, humans can do miracles just as they can breath. Neither can happen outside the power provided by God, and who are we to limit what God decides to bless certain individuals with?"

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Submitted by TPOS on 29 December, 2010 - 23:59

Ocean wrote:

So miracle is just a name that people give those circumstances that are quite positive and seem literally impossible and leave you with a face quite like :o and everyone around you joins in by saying "I can't believe it!"


You wrote:

My reply is "yes, humans can do miracles just as they can breath. Neither can happen outside the power provided by God, and who are we to limit what God decides to bless certain individuals with?"


Agreed.
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by mush91 on 30 December, 2010 - 13:26

i think us as humans cant do miracles
we can do big and great things if it is the will of allah
but we can only pray for miracles and it shall be answerd insh'allah

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The Wisest of Man Is Not The One Who Knows, But The One Who Seeks Knowledge In Order To Perform

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Submitted by Bilan on 30 December, 2010 - 19:06

mush91 wrote:
i think us as humans cant do miracles
we can do big and great things if it is the will of allah
but we can only pray for miracles and it shall be answerd insh'allah

yup yup!

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"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

Submitted by mush91 on 30 December, 2010 - 19:36

bilan wrote:
mush91 wrote:
i think us as humans cant do miracles
we can do big and great things if it is the will of allah
but we can only pray for miracles and it shall be answerd insh'allah

yup yup!

so you agree? Smile

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The Wisest of Man Is Not The One Who Knows, But The One Who Seeks Knowledge In Order To Perform

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Submitted by Bilan on 30 December, 2010 - 21:11

mush91 wrote:
bilan wrote:
mush91 wrote:
i think us as humans cant do miracles
we can do big and great things if it is the will of allah
but we can only pray for miracles and it shall be answerd insh'allah

yup yup!

so you agree? Smile

how could i not??! :shock:
truer words were never spoken.... Biggrin

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"Verily, in the remembrance of Allah, do hearts find rest"

Submitted by LookingToSee on 30 December, 2010 - 21:55

i dont believe that we, as humans, can do miracles.

just like we, as humans, cant breathe. its exactly the same thing as Admin, except looked the other way.

i believe we cant do owt without Allah (subhanahou wata'ala)'s helped.

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Submitted by TPOS on 30 December, 2010 - 22:12

Lilly wrote:
i dont believe that we, as humans, can do miracles.

just like we, as humans, cant breathe. its exactly the same thing as Admin, except looked the other way.

i believe we cant do owt without Allah (subhanahou wata'ala)'s helped.


To state the obvious!

But just because you can't do anything W/O Allah's will doesn't mean they're not miracles - e.g what the Prophet's (PBUT) did, they were miracles yet it was what Allah willed.

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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by You on 30 December, 2010 - 22:13

Maybe I am being all positive and hopeful in this topic. Hope.

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Submitted by LookingToSee on 30 December, 2010 - 23:09

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:
Lilly wrote:
i dont believe that we, as humans, can do miracles.

just like we, as humans, cant breathe. its exactly the same thing as Admin, except looked the other way.

i believe we cant do owt without Allah (subhanahou wata'ala)'s helped.


To state the obvious!

But just because you can't do anything W/O Allah's will doesn't mean they're not miracles - e.g what the Prophet's (PBUT) did, they were miracles yet it was what Allah willed.

i didnt think the "we" included prophets. Prophets is different.

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Submitted by TPOS on 30 December, 2010 - 23:19

Lilly wrote:

i didnt think the "we" included prophets. Prophets is different.


Allah(swt) can give the powers to other people too though. And i think people believe that certain people do/did have special powers?
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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by You on 30 December, 2010 - 23:59

Prophets (as) are special. Because God made them so.

Remember that everything they (as) do, their power is from no source other than God (swt).

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by mush91 on 31 December, 2010 - 10:13

yeah your right lilly, i mean us
the prophets were all special and able to do miracles by the will of Allah.
we on the other hand i dont think we can do miracles.
if we were all able to do miracls to what different would we be from the prophets themselves? agree or disagree?

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Submitted by You on 31 December, 2010 - 16:15

The difference would be the recieving of revelation or direct guidance - Mircales were not the only reasons for prophets to exist.

A miracle done by prophets are calld Mu'jiza.
A miracle done by non prophets are called karamat.

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by TPOS on 31 December, 2010 - 16:27

aren't the definitions of the word what he has said? Or is there more to it? If they're not the actual definitions then explain please Smile

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"How many people find fault in what they're reading and the fault is in their own understanding" Al Mutanabbi

Submitted by You on 1 January, 2011 - 20:20

I think there is a story in the qur'an about one of the followers of a prophet doing a miracle.

It is about Queen Sheba who was on her way to meet a Prophet (as) (Prophet Soloman (as)?) and the Prophet (as) wanted her throne to be present when she arrived. A jinn offered to bring it but the Prophet (as) said no, that would take too long. Then one of the sahabis of the prophet (as) said he would bring it within the blink of an eye.

[qs:27:38-40]

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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

Submitted by LookingToSee on 2 January, 2011 - 08:30

You wrote:
I think there is a story in the qur'an about one of the followers of a prophet doing a miracle.

It is about Queen Sheba who was on her way to meet a Prophet (as) (Prophet Soloman (as)?) and the Prophet (as) wanted her throne to be present when she arrived. A jinn offered to bring it but the Prophet (as) said no, that would take too long. Then one of the sahabis of the prophet (as) said he would bring it within the blink of an eye.

[qs:27:38-40]

you truly are the only one who can quote Ayahs of the Quran. in that funky way.

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Submitted by You on 2 January, 2011 - 14:30

its actually pretty simple.

[ qs : Suran Number : Verse Number ] where the Verse Number can be a single number (38) or a range of numbers (38-40).

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Submitted by TPOS on 2 January, 2011 - 16:16

[qs:1:1] (testing Blum 3 )

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Submitted by LookingToSee on 2 January, 2011 - 16:29

preeeetyyyy *in awe* you two can be the ayah quoting experts.

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