I've actually never even thought about that.. who told you that?

"...the funeral prayer for the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was offered by the Companions (Allah be pleased with them all). However, it was performed individually without an Imam leading the prayer. Groups of people would come into the room, offer their prayers and then leave."

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ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Today i was told there was no janazah for the Prophet Muhammad(saw)

yes isnt that sad.

what happened was that when Prophet (pbuh) died, the companions left his body;
they went to grab political power. In the Saqifa hall, they held a secret meeting.
around 50 or so men gathered in Safifa to chose a new a caliph.

Prophet's (pbuh) dead body lay in his house while his so called loyal companions wrangled for power.

Only a few of prophet's relatives such as Abbas, Ibn Abbas, Fazal and Ali, remained with the body of the Prophet (pbuh) and washed him and prepared the shroud.

Eventually, Abu Baker was named Caliph in Saqifa. Ali and his men were so disgusted, that they refused to recognise him as the legitimate ruler.
Ali said where did you come from, Prophet named me as his successor. If you didn't like me, then at least you should have invited everyone to hold election to vote for a new leader. Instead you held a covert meeting without telling the population.

Abu Baker realised his error and while he was preparing to make his peace with Ali, his vice president Umar and his men surrounded the house of Ali threatning to burn it down. Abu Baker stopped him and told him to come back.

Of course, Umar took over after Abu Baker; and now he did his best to change the facts of history. But thank God and efforts of honest men, the truth reached us in this century. There is a lot of disagreement of what happened in those terrible first few weeks after the death of the Prophet.

Secret of Saqifa Meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqifah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pond_of_Khumm

everyone can make their own research. there are plenty of books written on this subject.

malik wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

Today i was told there was no janazah for the Prophet Muhammad(saw)

yes isnt that sad.

what happened was that when Prophet (pbuh) died, the companions left his body;
they went to grab political power. in the Saqifa hall, they held a secret meeting.
around 50 or so men gathered in Safifa to chose a new a caliph.

Prophet's (pbuh) dead body lay in his house while his so called loyal companions wrangled for power.

Only a few of prophet's relatives such as Abbas, Ibn Abbas, Fazal and Ali, remained with the body of the Prophet (pbuh) and washed him and prepared the shroud.

Eventually, Abu Baker was named Caliph in Saqifa. Ali and his men were so disgusted, that they refused to recognise him as the legitimate ruler.
Ali said where did you come from, Prophet named me as his successor. If you didn't like me, then at least you should have invited everyone to hold election to vote for a new leader. Instead you held a covert meeting without telling the population.

Abu Baker realised his error and while he was preparing to make his peace with Ali, his vice president Umar and his men surrounded the house of Ali threatning to burn it down. Abu Baker stopped him and told him to come back.

Of course, Umar took over after Abu Baker; and now he did his best to change the facts of history. But thank God and efforts of honest men, the truth reached us in this century. There is a lot of disagreement of what happened in those terrible first few weeks after the death of the Prophet.

Secret of Saqifa Meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saqifah

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pond_of_Khumm

everyone can make their own research. there are plenty of books written on this subject.

wikipedia ??? :!:

Anonymous88 wrote:

wikipedia ??? :!:

Yes, very accurate isn't it.

For anyone who is interested, the book Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum - The Sealed Nectar by Safi-ur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri is one of the best books for the seerah. It confirms what I stated in my above post.

The book was awarded 1st prize by The World Muslim League at a worldwide competition held in Makkah in 1979.

As mentioned befoer Malik's post, that is not what happened.

There was no collective funeral prayer (and such a thing would have had p[olitical questions to as to who would lead it), but where the prophet was laid, groups of sahabahs would go in about 10 at a time and offer either a funeral prayer or salutations (I have not read the sources but I have heard/read people from "now" state one or the other) and then the next lot would go in.

This continued for three or so days, before the prophet was burried.

Thats what I said before Malik's post.

and I just repeated after.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

[size=8](i don't like it)[/size]

Why?

im seriously going to start reading it now. and finish it o.o. and as it won the 1st prize. then im sure its going to be quite reliable.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

It was too simple.

Thats good. Better than making it too complicated and not understanding at all.

Ocean wrote:

hmm So in essence there was a jannazah but not in the same fashion as it is performed for normal Muslims?

Why was that though?

"who would have been worthy enough to lead the Janaazah prayer of the prophet?" is the first question that comes to mind.

Ocean wrote:

If that's the case then I was right to assume that since it was the Jannazah of a PROPHET hence no one lead it.

im not sure at all, its just the first thing that came to mind.

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

MuslimBro wrote:

ThE pOwEr Of SiLeNcE wrote:

[size=8](i don't like it)[/size]

Why?

It was too simple.

i agree. it insults our intelligence.
the book is cut heavily. it tries to hide a lot of truth.
its for the simple minded who dont ask any questions.