Quotes that make me smile

[quote=s.b.f]I like how she emphasizes that she was VERY young when she thought that. [/quote]

Does it make you wonder how old she really is?

:p

"When you stopped believing in God, did you stop believing in good and evil?"

"No, but I stopped believing in the the power of good and the power of evil that was outside us and I came to believe that good and evil are names for what people do - not for what they are."

- Why if you stop believing in God, would you stop believing in good and evil?
- What does it mean to stop believing in good and evil? Surely that's all around us for us to see for ourselves.
- What does it mean by the 'power of good and the power of evil' ?

[quote=s.b.f]

"When you stopped believing in God, did you stop believing in good and evil?"

"No, but I stopped believing in the the power of good and the power of evil that was outside us and I came to believe that good and evil are names for what people do - not for what they are."

- Why if you stop believing in God, would you stop believing in good and evil?[/quote]

Because you see morals and ethics taught by God/Religion and if you do not believe in the former, you find flaw in the latter.

[quote=s.b.f] - What does it mean to stop believing in good and evil? Surely that's all around us for us to see for ourselves.[/quote]

"Morals" can change - what some people find immoral others may consider to have the highest of morality. If you look at past civilisations, the Romans, the Greeks etc, they have some highly suspect morals that would not be accepted today.

Even some Islamic morals are not accepted by others.

[quote=s.b.f] - What does it mean by the 'power of good and the power of evil' ?
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No idea. Maybe the idea that they hold any sway or meaning?

[quote=wednesday]
If you stop believing in God, people realise that it's the idea of God/gods that creates the two branches; good and the veil, I mean evil. Since it's something that's termed mainly by God believeing people, then to non-believing life's just survival of the fittest.[/quote]

yeah... but it's NOT like that, though. How can you say what 'life is like' for a non-believer if you've never been a non-believer yourself?

kafirun still believe in right and wrong, good and evil, they just don't know where these ideas come from, so try to come up with biological/psychological/sociological/philosophical explanations.

They still agree (maybe 90-95%) with what actions are 'right' or 'wrong' as most Muslims.

[quote=wednesday]

All I meant to say was the "bad" isn't a restriction for them as it is for Muslims perhaps and therefore it's not really considered BAD as believing people label it. hmm If you substitute the believer's bad with some sort of scientific reason, would it still be considered BAD or would it be like an illusion of bad, but it's just a consequence of mixing X with Benzene solution?

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:S

I'm confused.

[quote=wednesday]Correct, I've never been a non-believer so I wouldn't know stuff like the earth is most definitely round. (I kid)

All I meant to say was the "bad" isn't a restriction for them as it is for Muslims perhaps and therefore it's not really considered BAD as believing people label it. hmm If you substitute the believer's bad with some sort of scientific reason, would it still be considered BAD or would it be like an illusion of bad, but it's just a consequence of mixing X with Benzene solution?

The 90-95% of those right and wrong actions may well be human morals, values and common sense... [/quote]

A non-Muslim still feels guilty after hurting someone.

And you'll need to expand on the rest of what you said cos it's a bit unclear! :p

[quote=Ya'qub]A non-Muslim still feels guilty after hurting someone.[/quote]

yup, as even after denying the existence of God, there is still human natuer and human compassion. (humanism?)

'I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts' - Will Rogers

'The only time people dislike gossip is when you gossip about them'- William Penn

'if your wife wants to learn how to drive, dont stand in her way'

'we cause greater pain to others to get an answer ,rather than endeavoring upon that question ourself'

'The man with insight enough to admit his limitations comes nearest to perfection' - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

At the age of eleven she wrote her first story - a foolish affair, imitative of half a dozen folk tales and lacking, she realised later, that vital knowingness about the ways of the world which compels a reader's respect. But this first clumsy attempt showed her that imagination itself was a source of secrets: once she has begun a story, no one could be told. Pretending in words was too tentative, too vulnerable, too embarrassing to let anyone know. Even writing out the she said , the and thens, made her wince , and she felt foolish, appearing to know about the emotions of an imaginary being. Self exposure was inevitable the moment she described a character's weakness; the reader was bound to speculate she was describing herself. What other authority could she have? Only when a story was finished, all fates resolved and the whole matter sealed off at both ends so it resembled. at least in this one respect every other finished story in the world, could she feel immune and ready to punch holes in the margins, bind the chapters with pieces of strong, paint or draw the cover and take the finished work to show her mother or her father, when he was home.

Atonement , Ian McEwan

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" You failed? Congratulations! Surprised? People are never successful by birth. Whomsoever is a Tycoon in their domain has come across innumerable failures but they never gave up; they overcame those failures! So, did you fail? Congratulations!!! You are on the right track!"
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"There is nothing that wastes the body like worry, and one who has any faith in God should be ashamed to worry about anything whatsoever."

-Gandi

[quote=Seraphim]"There is nothing that wastes the body like worry, and one who has any faith in God should be ashamed to worry about anything whatsoever."

-Gandi[/quote]

Oh dear...I think I worry about everything that ever happens.

I don't actually know how to stop.

A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life - Muhammad Ali

Something that I got by text:

Boxing legend Muhammad Ali, once said:

I don't smoke but I keep a match box in my pocket, when my heart slips towards sin, i burn the match stick and heat my palm with it, then I say to myself, "Ali, you can't even bear this heat, how will you bear the inbearable heat of hell?"

[quote=You]A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life - Muhammad Ali[/quote]

LIKE

[quote=You]Something that I got by text:

Boxing legend Muhammad Ali, once said:

I don't smoke but I keep a match box in my pocket, when my heart slips towards sin, i burn the match stick and heat my palm with it, then I say to myself, "Ali, you can't even bear this heat, how will you bear the inbearable heat of hell?"

[/quote]

wow that is powerful. tnx

Live IN duniya, but not FOR duniya.

(By Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr. Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri)