"Everybody has to choose Islam"

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.. Even those that are born Muslim.

Discuss.

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Amal — Sun, 8 Feb 2009 - 17:29

One reason why the salaf and other saliheen were so strong and steadfast in their faith - and why they remained Muslim was because they actually found Islam to be the deen al-fitrah - i.e. a NATURAL way. Living Islam everyday became part and parcel of their being - that which they were at ease with, found comfortable and ran towards - like a warm bed on a cold winter night. (Supposedly not being a Muslim would be difficult). Islam (or hidayah/guidance) was not really something they chose, it chose them.

You — Sun, 8 Feb 2009 - 17:48

Just to add context, I was watching a youtube video of Abdul Raheem Green (I think it was him) the other day where he was asked about choosing Islam, and he made that point that He may have chosen it, but so does everyone else who is Muslim.

Yes, Islam/guidance may choose us, but at the same time we can ignore it (I think) out of greed, fear or other excuses.

Amal — Sun, 8 Feb 2009 - 18:10

[quote=You]
Yes, Islam/guidance may choose us, but at the same time we can ignore it (I think) out of greed, fear or other excuses.[/quote]

By choosing to ignore the guidance (or calling, if you like), is going against the natural (fitrah) that we are created and subsequently given by God. Everyone has fitrah inside of them - and the potential to become wonderful human-beings, but secondary matters (such as greed) misdirect and divert us from reality that is in front of us, and then from guidance?

You — Mon, 9 Feb 2009 - 21:51

no, by "everyone" it means "all Muslims".

ie even those born Muslims will at some point have to have an awakening or say "Yes, I am Muslim, yes I believe".

You — Mon, 9 Feb 2009 - 22:36

nope - free will is a different discussion.

This one is over the statement that all born Muslims also have to choose their sides, and to be real muslims, they have to choose to be - that there is no default position of automatically Muslim.

s.b.f — Mon, 9 Feb 2009 - 22:40

Understood.

Generally, Is it better to awaken the sense that "yes, I am a Muslim" when your young or older? in everyones' opinion? I know it depends on the person and situation.

Ya'qub — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 - 01:15

[quote=The Lamp]Even some of the atheists or non-religious people actually start "praying" when they get desperate.[/quote]

Yep. I know people who've done that.