What Is An 'Infidel' ?

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Definition
infidel Show phonetics
noun [C or U] OLD USE DISAPPROVING
someone who does not have the same religious beliefs as the person speaking:
He lived among infidels/the infidel.
infidel armies

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infidel

/infid’l/

• noun chiefly archaic a person who has no religion or whose religion is not that of the majority.

— ORIGIN Latin infidelis, from in- ‘not’ + fidelis ‘faithful’

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Interesting stuff. You know how people have hijacked Islam with their disproportionate and radical views, is it not time the true Jewish population ridded itself of those who claim to represent them ?

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RI_RS — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 - 18:38

Just so i understand, by those definitions would say... a 'Muslim' [By identity, not necessarily faith or practice] who lived amongst say... a solely Christian community, be an infidel?

Why is it used so negatively? I've never considered actual definitions but i automatically associated it with 'bad' people...

But I'd think someone breaking free from the shackles that be convention and majority votes could be a positive thing....

For example, would the 'idol worshippers' of his time declare a prophet an 'infidel'?

BDB (not verified) — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 - 19:07

referring to the zionists who claim to represent Judaism, however they do seem to outnumber 'orthodox' Jews.

RI_RS — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 - 19:15

[quote=BDB]
referring to the zionists who claim to represent Judaism, however they do seem to outnumber 'orthodox' Jews.[/quote]

if they claim to represent something that (according to you) they don't actually, believe or have faith in.... isn't that more Hypocrisy?

If Zionism isn't within Judaism then surely those people AREN'T 'Jewish' but are actually 'Zionists'?

And if Zionists outnumber 'orthodox Jewish' people, then aren't the 'Orthodox Jewish' people the 'infidels' according to those definitions?

The Lamp — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 - 12:13

One man's infidel is another's hero.
Hey, I've got a question about Satanism. If they believe in Satan and God, how/why do they believe that Satan is in the right? Just something that I've been wondering and what are their stance on moral issues.

Dawud — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 - 09:33

[quote=The Lamp]One man's infidel is another's hero.
Hey, I've got a question about Satanism. If they believe in Satan and God, how/why do they believe that Satan is in the right? Just something that I've been wondering and what are their stance on moral issues.[/quote]
Well if your assumption is correct, my guess is that they want something that they can only get off the black market. Or its faster/easier off the blackmarket.

The Lamp — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 - 11:41

No, I was aksing what Satan will do to them. If they believe that Satan is stronger that God (naudhubillah), then surely they fear Satan?