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Submitted by vanclive on 4 February, 2008 - 15:55 #92
prophet muhammed said that if u lived with a nation for 40 days u become one of them. he stopped there but doesnt that mean that u must take part in their traditions etc.
Submitted by MuslimBro on 4 February, 2008 - 19:10 #93
I've always been abit wary when it comes to Valentines. I'm not too sure about how Valentines day came about but I've heard it originated from a person who was a Christian?
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Imitation of the unbelievers (Kuffar) is something that Islam strictly disapproves of.
In a Hadith recorded by Imam Abu Dawud (Allah have Mercy on him) and others, The Messenger of Allah said, “Whosoever imitates a nation is amongst them”. (Sunan Abu Dawud)
Fatwa of Shaykh Mufti Taqi Usmani - Doing something that is unique and exclusive to the non-believers or it is part of their faith. This will be considered imitation, thus Haram (unlawful).
A lot of things can be classed as imitating the kufar, where do we draw the line? It's about your niyya too, if you have no intention of imitating them, then how can this be wrong?
Submitted by Funzo on 4 February, 2008 - 20:49 #95
We can draw the line where it becomes haraam or creates a gateway to sin?
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Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by MuslimBro on 12 February, 2008 - 01:58 #100
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[b][size=14]Saudis clamp down on valentines[/size][/b]
Religious police in Saudi Arabia are banning the sale of Valentine's Day gifts including red roses, a local newspaper has reported.
The Saudi Gazette quoted shop workers as saying that officials had warned them to remove all red items including flowers and wrapping paper.
Black market prices for roses were already rising, the paper said.
Saudi authorities consider Valentine's Day, along with a host of other annual celebrations, as un-Islamic.
In addition to the prohibition on celebrating non-Islamic festivals, the authorities consider Valentine's Day as encouraging relations between men and women outside wedlock - punishable by law in the conservative kingdom.
The Saudi Gazette reported that some people placed orders with florists days or weeks before Valentine's Day in anticipation of the ban, which is a regular occurrence.
"Sometimes we deliver the bouquets in the middle of the night or early morning, to avoid suspicion," one florist said.
Others were planning to travel to the more religiously liberal neighbouring countries, Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates, to celebrate.
Saudi Arabian authorities impose a strict Islamic code that prevents men and women from mixing.
Submitted by Naz on 12 February, 2008 - 16:48 #101
"MuslimBro" wrote:
Valentine's Day as encouraging relations between men and women outside wedlock - punishable by law in the conservative kingdom.
very true.
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No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Submitted by Ya'qub on 12 February, 2008 - 17:05 #102
"MuslimBro" wrote:
Quote:
[b][size=14]Saudis clamp down on valentines[/size][/b]
Religious police in Saudi Arabia are banning the sale of Valentine's Day gifts including red roses, a local newspaper has reported.
The Saudi Gazette quoted shop workers as saying that officials had warned them to remove all red items including flowers and wrapping paper.
Black market prices for roses were already rising, the paper said.
Saudi authorities consider Valentine's Day, along with a host of other annual celebrations, as un-Islamic.
In addition to the prohibition on celebrating non-Islamic festivals, the authorities consider Valentine's Day as encouraging relations between men and women outside wedlock - punishable by law in the conservative kingdom.
The Saudi Gazette reported that some people placed orders with florists days or weeks before Valentine's Day in anticipation of the ban, which is a regular occurrence.
"Sometimes we deliver the bouquets in the middle of the night or early morning, to avoid suspicion," one florist said.
Others were planning to travel to the more religiously liberal neighbouring countries, Bahrain or the United Arab Emirates, to celebrate.
Saudi Arabian authorities impose a strict Islamic code that prevents men and women from mixing.
Aww...c'mon guys! The Saudi royals are just teasing. They say this every year, but when it comes to the big day they'll have a large bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates for all of us! They're big softies really...
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
Submitted by Seraphim on 12 February, 2008 - 18:47 #103
I recieved a LOT of cards and flowers etc this year, mostly from the kids from my class...valentine day is just a commercial expression of love. I can see little wrong with it.
Submitted by Sirus on 17 February, 2008 - 12:54 #105
"MuslimSister" wrote:
I recieved a LOT of cards and flowers etc this year, mostly from the kids from my class...valentine day is just a commercial expression of love. I can see little wrong with it.
depending on who is giving to who, i agree
i got something wich was really nice from a friend
doesnt have to be lovey dovey, jus something sweet!
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Noor on 17 February, 2008 - 12:58 #106
just a friend eh?
Submitted by Sirus on 17 February, 2008 - 13:00 #107
"Noor" wrote:
just a friend eh?
Yes!
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by You on 17 February, 2008 - 14:04 #108
On valentines?
If it's a guy friend, you gotta start watching your back.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Funzo on 17 February, 2008 - 14:48 #109
"You" wrote:
On valentines?
If it's a guy friend, you gotta start watching your back.
—
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Submitted by Sirus on 18 February, 2008 - 15:15 #110
"You" wrote:
On valentines?
If it's a guy friend, you gotta start watching your back.
i actually did get valentines texts from my mates....one i wouldnt be surprised if he was a lil on the other side.......but your ryt, better watch out..!
—
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
Submitted by Dawud on 19 February, 2008 - 12:25 #111
"MuslimBro" wrote:
I've always been abit wary when it comes to Valentines. I'm not too sure about how Valentines day came about but I've heard it originated from a person who was a Christian?
It was started by a Christian, but isn't a Christian celebration. The eprson who started it was persecuted because the state banned marriages and he was a priest who was secretly marrying people ('marrying two people together', not 'marrying himself to other people'). In my opinion he did a good thing but this day seems to have become something else, what with the secret admires and all.
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Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
Submitted by Ya'qub on 3 January, 2009 - 20:47 #112
Submitted by The Lamp on 5 January, 2009 - 10:42 #113
Disgusting, Yaqub, disgusting. Looked like intestines and guts when I first looked at it.
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“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Submitted by _LoLy_ on 5 January, 2009 - 18:33 #114
TheRevivalEditor wrote:
salaam
SALAAM!:lol:
TheRevivalEditor wrote:
Valentine Day is approaching....
yees..here too..
TheRevivalEditor wrote:
so do people take part or not?
everyone want to do it..:D
TheRevivalEditor wrote:
do you see it as haram and evil?
i think it's not haram(=is like forbidden?)..but it's useless..
TheRevivalEditor wrote:
Should married couples take part?
isn't it good for married couples to use this day as an excuse to be nicer and closer to each other?
Is it just a waste of time....
yes..everyone can take part...:)
but i think it's a waste of time and it's a commercial "party"..if u love your partner, you love always...without presents....if u want to do it, you should do when you want to do it..not in a day specify..
I hear that alcohol can do the same thing. but the prince charming may revert to be a toad by the morning after.
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 6 January, 2009 - 16:39 #120
You wrote:
I hear that alcohol can do the same thing. but the prince charming may revert to be a toad by the morning after.
Cheers!
prophet muhammed said that if u lived with a nation for 40 days u become one of them. he stopped there but doesnt that mean that u must take part in their traditions etc.
I've always been abit wary when it comes to Valentines. I'm not too sure about how Valentines day came about but I've heard it originated from a person who was a Christian?
A lot of things can be classed as imitating the kufar, where do we draw the line? It's about your niyya too, if you have no intention of imitating them, then how can this be wrong?
We can draw the line where it becomes haraam or creates a gateway to sin?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Also making things compulsory.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
huh?
Im sure you will understand sooner or later.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
InshaAllah
very true.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Aww...c'mon guys! The Saudi royals are just teasing. They say this every year, but when it comes to the big day they'll have a large bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates for all of us! They're big softies really...
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Hey... you deleted my post.
Back in BLACK
I recieved a LOT of cards and flowers etc this year, mostly from the kids from my class...valentine day is just a commercial expression of love. I can see little wrong with it.
depending on who is giving to who, i agree
i got something wich was really nice from a friend
doesnt have to be lovey dovey, jus something sweet!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
just a friend eh?
Yes!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
On valentines?
If it's a guy friend, you gotta start watching your back.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
i actually did get valentines texts from my mates....one i wouldnt be surprised if he was a lil on the other side.......but your ryt, better watch out..!
The Lover is ever drunk with love;
He is free, he is mad,
He dances with ecstasy and delight.
Caught by our own thoughts,
We worry about every little thing,
But once we get drunk on that love,
Whatever will be, will be.
ɐɥɐɥ
It was started by a Christian, but isn't a Christian celebration. The eprson who started it was persecuted because the state banned marriages and he was a priest who was secretly marrying people ('marrying two people together', not 'marrying himself to other people'). In my opinion he did a good thing but this day seems to have become something else, what with the secret admires and all.
Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.
Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes
Sorry for being 6 weeks early, but...
[IMG]http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5774/toadfm9.jpg[/IMG]
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Disgusting, Yaqub, disgusting. Looked like intestines and guts when I first looked at it.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
SALAAM!:lol:
yees..here too..
everyone want to do it..:D
i think it's not haram(=is like forbidden?)..but it's useless..
yes..everyone can take part...:)
but i think it's a waste of time and it's a commercial "party"..if u love your partner, you love always...without presents....if u want to do it, you should do when you want to do it..not in a day specify..
is like "goodbye"? or "hello" twice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE-St7cfoKo&feature=channel_page
its easiest to just tell them its against your religion to go out with them
they take it better than telling them you would never go out with them
its what i do anyway
SMILE! its charity
What's wrong with just a toad?
Don't be so superficial!
Don't just do something! Stand there.
Not like that. Never. It'll make them think Islam is some cult.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Only if you kiss him :badgrin:
Back in BLACK
I hear that alcohol can do the same thing. but the prince charming may revert to be a toad by the morning after.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I suppose its the only way toads "get some" lol.
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