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Qu'ran references force worldwide LittleBigPlanet recall

Sony has confirmed that it is delaying the release of LittleBigPlanet and recalling the game from retailers worldwide because it has identified "two expressions that can be found in the Qu'ran" in one of the background songs.

The publisher has told Eurogamer that this means every copy of the game currently with retail in the world will be recalled and replaced, and retailers have started notifying customers of the hold-up.

"During the review process prior to the release of LittleBigPlanet, it has been brought to our attention that one of the background music tracks licensed from a record label for use in the game contains two expressions that can be found in the Qur'an," Sony said in a short statement.

"We have taken immediate action to rectify this and we sincerely apologise for any offence that this may have caused."

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You — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 16:16

"Qullu Nafsin Zaa'iqatul Maut" and "Qullu Man Alaihaa Faan", meaning "Every soul shall have the taste of death" and "All that is on earth will perish".

Ya'qub — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 18:51

Admin, another situation that is perfect for the 'slapping own forehead in a fit of utter degection at the world around me' smiley. C'mon... pretty please?

You — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 19:49

hehe, find me a decent one (that has acceptable licensing terms) and I will add it.

And the "controversy" is that apparently there are Muslims out there who find it offensive to hear the Qur'an being recited with music.

I have never even considered the topic before so I am still not sure, but I guess those who think music is not allowed will find it "offensive" - but then again they should avoid all tv, games.

As an exercise - I have asked my self the question wether there is ever a scene in a (properly budgeted) Hollywood movie that has no music (not including scenes that are artificially silenced to enhance the impact of whatever) for even one scene. I don't think there are any that do that.

Ya'qub — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 19:59

My dad used to orchestrate the music for hollywood films.

The best music is in old cartoons, especially Tom and Jerry. EVERY footstep is put a particular note in the music.

And how they used to record the music is in itself amazing. The conductor would have to watch the cartoon on a cinema screen, and let the musicians know exactly when to play each note. VERY difficult to achieve.

And many people don't even notice!

You — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:02

[quote=Ya'qub]And many people don't even notice![/quote]

True.

I asked a few people the above question and they all though that movies generally did not have music except for important moments.

but then again, a lot of the music is to set the mood and if you notice it, it may ruin the effect.

The only real time you notice the music is when it is suddenly cut off - a method used to show that something shocking has happened.

You — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:03

[quote=Ya'qub]And how they used to record the music is in itself amazing. The conductor would have to watch the cartoon on a cinema screen, and let the musicians know exactly when to play each note. VERY difficult to achieve.[/quote]

I would hate to be in such a career -too many things to keep in mind. Too niggly.

Ya'qub — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:10

[quote=You][quote=Ya'qub]And how they used to record the music is in itself amazing. The conductor would have to watch the cartoon on a cinema screen, and let the musicians know exactly when to play each note. VERY difficult to achieve.[/quote]

I would hate to be in such a career -too many things to keep in mind. Too niggly.
[/quote]

But I'm sure being paid over 100 pounds per hour would help.

Best film themes IMO are Jaws, Indiana Jones and Star Wars. So basically anything by John Williams. They all cunjour up images/themes/mood of the films within a few seconds of hearing the music.

In Star Wars he uses a technique called 'leitmotif' which was invented by a German composer called Wagner for his operas. Basically each character has their own 'theme' music, for example you know Darth Vader is going to show up in the scene before he does, because you hear the Imperial March (The one that goes 'Dan dan dan dern da-naan dern da-naaaan...DAN DAN DAN DERN DA-NAAN DERN DA-NAAAAN...DAN DAN DAN DERN DER DE-DE-NAA, DER-NAA' etc )

Thus ends the lesson for today!

Ya'qub — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:17

[quote=You]I find all this interesting - mainly because I am not a aural person and tend to ignore a lot of sounds.[/quote]

Pardon?!

You — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:19

aural

Pertaining to or perceived by the ear, as an aural stimulus.

Meaning I can ignore sounds.

Actually scratch that, what I mean is that I tend to ignore/background sounds by default and often have to put effort into listening to people/things to process them in an active manner.

Another way to put it is: "I daydream"

Ya'qub — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 - 20:21

[quote=You]aural

Pertaining to or perceived by the ear, as an aural stimulus.

Meaning I can ignore sounds.[/quote]

It was a (lame) joke.

On a plus note, I have been asked to help produce for a nasheed group here in Syria.

Its a shame I don't like nasheeds.

Anonymous' (not verified) — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 - 05:14

youtube and make your own judgement, seems very insulting in the way suchh powerful words are being treated with disdain.

Courage — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 - 09:38

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=You][quote=Ya'qub]And how they used to record the music is in itself amazing. The conductor would have to watch the cartoon on a cinema screen, and let the musicians know exactly when to play each note. VERY difficult to achieve.[/quote]

I would hate to be in such a career -too many things to keep in mind. Too niggly.
[/quote]

But I'm sure being paid over 100 pounds per hour would help.

Best film themes IMO are Jaws, Indiana Jones and Star Wars. So basically anything by John Williams. They all cunjour up images/themes/mood of the films within a few seconds of hearing the music.

In Star Wars he uses a technique called 'leitmotif' which was invented by a German composer called Wagner for his operas. Basically each character has their own 'theme' music, for example you know Darth Vader is going to show up in the scene before he does, because you hear the Imperial March (The one that goes 'Dan dan dan dern da-naan dern da-naaaan...DAN DAN DAN DERN DA-NAAN DERN DA-NAAAAN...DAN DAN DAN DERN DER DE-DE-NAA, DER-NAA' etc )

Thus ends the lesson for today![/quote]

Lord of the Rings has really good music. I love the Adventure Theme Tune (Pum-PUM-Pum-Pum pum pum.... Pum pum-Pum Pum pum-Pum Pum Pum-Pum). I love the Peaceful/Shire/Fellowship Tune. The Uruk, Ringwraith and Rohan Tunes are also quite good.

Seraphim — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 - 10:12

[quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah][quote=Seraphim][quote=Young Anonymous Muslimah]
:? shud i change my avatar now??[/quote]

Only if its an improvement.[/quote]

Don't you like it? :shock: [/quote]

I neither like nor dislike it.
But if you're generally gonna change something, it should be as an improvement on the old.

Young Anonymou… — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 - 11:02

Okay , i'll leave it then. 😃

The song that had it in, has been out for ages. They just used it, but being good people they wanted to change it,so as not to offend anyone. UNLIKE that author Sherry Jones! :x

Ya'qub — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 - 19:11

[quote=You]May not be safe for work (or kids).

That may be one of the most subbed clips in the world ever, but it is STILL funny.[/quote]

I've seen that before, I think I posted on here a while back.

It makes me laugh for the geekiest of reasons.

You — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 - 00:28

You probably have, but I am sure it would have contained different subtitles.

That single clip can help convey the enormity of any disaster anywhere. Just add the appropriate subtitles.

JdV (not verified) — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 16:18

[quote=Ya'qub]Best film themes ... basically anything by John Williams.[/quote]

He's on my Desert Island Discs selection for sure. I went to the Halle for a John Williams night a few months ago, absolutely fantastic. Sitting three rows from a whole orchestra playing you the Superman theme is very very special. I was expecting lots of lightsabers and Harry Potter costumes but it wasn't such a lowbrow crowd.

But the best score ever comes from the best musical and possibly the best movie ever, West Side Story.

Ya'qub — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 - 20:51

[quote=JdV][quote=Ya'qub]
But the best score ever comes from the best musical and possibly the best movie ever, West Side Story.[/quote]

Yay! I kinda like Sweeny Todd too, and the Sunday in the Park with George. Other than that I pretty much hate musicals, especially Andrew Loud Webby.