existing jinns

[quote=mahdee]Will a jinn harm a human without any reason?
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Why.... what have you done?

Wow... is it that time of the year again, where we start telling ghost stories.

Like people, there are also crazy and evil Jinns and as such will be out to cause harm

I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories!

[quote=mahdee]Will a jinn harm a human without any reason?
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If you havent done anything then you havent got anything to worry about. 😃

[quote=Seraphim]Wow... is it that time of the year again, where we start telling ghost stories.

Like people, there are also crazy and evil Jinns and as such will be out to cause harm [/quote]

Theyr not ghost stories. Jinns do exist and can harm ppl if you peev them off. I have never encountered a Jinn experience but if i did i will probably be freaked out for life.

Why do people say '1 jinn' and 'many jinns'? 'jinn' is already the plural of jinni (genie).

i was gonna say dat and besides the letter 's' doesnt make summit plural in the arabic language

[quote=Naz]
Theyr not ghost stories. Jinns do exist and can harm ppl if you peev them off. I have never encountered a Jinn experience but if i did i will probably be freaked out for life.
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People often mistake one for the other sooo.... {forgets what point he was going to make... never mind lol}

[quote=Sumaiya]I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories![/quote]

Most of them probably false.

Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.

Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.

I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.

[quote=You][quote=Sumaiya]I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories![/quote]

Most of them probably false.

Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.

Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.

I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.[/quote]

Actually they're real, we called a rukia man in and he said this is classic jinn behaviour

[quote=Sumaiya][quote=You][quote=Sumaiya]I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories![/quote]

Most of them probably false.

Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.

Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.

I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.[/quote]

Actually they're real, we called a rukia man in and he said this is classic jinn behaviour[/quote]

how much did he charge for that amazing diagnoses?

😛

this guy was authentic

[quote=You]

I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.[/quote]

There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )

On the other hand, we humans have the ability to gain control of jinn - Ive learnt of a method (as explained from a very respected scholar, so authentic!) (not that I will ever use it!) :doubt: :shock:

[quote=Amal]
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )[/quote]

How can there be a disagreement between scholars on this subject?

Either there have been documented, verifiable cases of it happening or there are not.

[quote=You][quote=Amal]
There is scholastic disagreement as to whether Jinn posession (of humans) is possible. (I like to keep my options open on this one personally :o )[/quote]

How can there be a disagreement between scholars on this subject?

Either there have been documented, verifiable cases of it happening or there are not.
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Like I said, scholastic disagreement - i.e. based on evidences from Qur'an and sunnah. Documented cases and whatsnot are a secondary (and of course evidentially supportive) matter.

[quote=love to live but living to die]
^^ thats my excuse too (its all human psychology)... to be bloody honest... i've done no research on this topic and don't know for sure whether i believe in it... it may be due to the fact that people have misused and manipulated the issue to an extent that the scars are tooooo deep to disappear... all i know is that they exist... and thats it... and i don't believe that they actually interfere in your life... like You explained its against the human freewill... otherwise we've got two angels on our shoulders, do you hear them whisper in your ears?[/quote]

Unlike angels, humans and Jinns have free will. So theoretically one can interfere in the lives of the other.

one incident that happened a long time ago,
My elder brother got up in the middle of the night to visit the loo and on his way back to his room, he saw a tall white jinn praying in his room, obviously he was freaked coz i mean cmon, hes just seen a jinn, or probably back then he must of thought it a ghost!

But if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.

Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.

[quote=Naz]But if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.

Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
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Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.

What if you driving you car down the motorway and then it suddenly changes into a tree? you'd be killed!

Anyway, about the du'aa....We choose what we make du'aa for. If we ask Allah (swt) to make us patient/kind, then that is OUR choice. We could easily choose to make du'aa that Allah (swt) changes our Horse Chestnut into an Aston Martin.

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz]But if a Jinn can take the form of a tree or car whats to say they cant possess humans?
Yes if a Jinn does harm/possess a human it does go against the freewill that Allah(swt) has given mankind BUT the Jinns are being tested too so if they do abuse the powers Allah(swt) has given them then clearly they will be punished for it.

Mankind does not have complete freewill anyway, some aspects of our lives are determined. Ie by making dua for something and then Allah(swt) granting it us.
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Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.
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LOL, that made me laugh.

[quote=yaqub]Who said a jinni can take the for of a car or a tree? I think you mean Transformers.[/quote]

😂

I cant remember exactly where ( i have this habit of reading but not jotting down what i read and my memory is not as good as it use to be) but i did come across these:

Jinn

Jinn

If Jinns cant harm you then why are Muslims suppose to read Aa€™oodhu Billaahi min al-khubthi waal-khabaaa€™ith when entering the bathroom? Its because they can harm humans hence why were told to read it.

Jinna do have more powers then mankind so whats to say they cant turn into a tree or car. The bad Jinns obviously have too much time on their hands so they torment humans. If i wasnt visible to mankind i would be very tempted to scare some puny human being muhahaha

Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs

[quote=Naz]

Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
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Why are you rustling?

I don't think you'll be laughing when I attack you with my pen. You've seen Demolition Man, right?

[quote=Ya'qub][quote=Naz]

Yaqab - whistling away
Naz - rustles
Yaqub - whose there?
Naz - continues to rustle
Yaqub - (Picks up pen as if its a sword) I know your there. Come out.
Naz - points and laughs
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Why are you rustling?

I don't think you'll be laughing when I attack you with my pen. You've seen Demolition Man, right? [/quote]

Well i was trying to imagine what i would do if i was a Jinn. Ive come to the conclusion i just wouldnt be a very scary Jinn. Id probably get bullied by other Jinns for being so pathetic like Lenny (a vegi shark)did in shark tale because he wouldnt eat the fish.

If you cant see me then your stabbing into the air lol. Demolition Man.....hmmmm sounds familiar.

[quote=You][quote=Sumaiya]I have got some BIG STYLE jinn stories![/quote]

Most of them probably false.

Jinn are used as a bogeyman to scare kids. Unfortunately, most kids grow up and still believe the stories wholesale. I guess the next generation will also believe in Santa Claus.

Others use them as "excuses" for bad behaviour or mental illness.

I have not seen any evidence that a Jinn can harm a human, nor do I think they can "Possess" others as that would seem to go against the basic free will that Allah (swt) has granted to humans.[/quote]
So if i hold your hand and make you hit yourself doesnt that go against free will.

That is different from being "possessed" which I suggest may be total codswallop.

why is it different? havent i tooken control of a certain part of your body?

which can fight (which would be the act of free will)? where there is a physical act of restraint?

oh, I forgot to mention, you would not be able to do that in the first place 😛

Well you can fight jinns if they are weak enough but in the majority of cases they are too strong as if a body builder was to take control of a baby the body builder would be physically too strong and can control the baby, if we take this analogy and apply this to ourselves the jinn is the bodybuilder stronger than us and we are the baby unable to resist because of the might of the jinn hence being possessed but if we for example to have enough imaan and in the analogies case grow up and build our bodies to the strenght of the bodybuilder than we can resist the jinn and the analogies case the bodybuilder.

Not. The. Same. Thing.

Show me evidence that possessions can happen. Til that day I will maintain that is is all a hoax.

[quote=You]Not. The. Same. Thing.

Show me evidence that possessions can happen. Til that day I will maintain that is is all a hoax.[/quote]

But you gotta admit they are entertaining stories.