Salaam all.
As you can see im new and this is my first topic(and post). I was told about this forum by sister on another forum. She had also gave me info and help on such things as Milad un nabi and salaaming/touching peoples feet out of love/respect. Although some of those things are still unclear to me for various reasons, this is another issue which is somewhat unclear to me.
Id appreciate it if someone could bring some evidences forward to prove this or prove it isnt true.
JazzakAllah for your help and apologies in advance if iv said anything rude or offensive.
sorry to be a spoilt support but as we have no scholars on the forum its best to ask this Q to a scholar or I can ask a scholar for you. Personal views from ppl here will just create misguidance.
so only post a link of an answer from a scholar pls.... no personal views as this issue is for ulema to debate and discuss.
I thought people could post up hadiths or something which could indicate some sort of an answer, which is what happened on another forum. But yes if you could ask a scholar for me id very much appreciate it.
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Have you lot read up on wave-particle duality?
Take an electron. Treat it as a wave and it behaves as a wave. Treat it as a particle and it behaves like a particle.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yeah...pretty mind-blowing stuff.
Here is a video that explains it quite well:
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Don't just do something! Stand there.
There are countless places where it tells u the Propeht
is noor..
Surah 5:15: Verily there has come to you a light (the Prophet (saw)) and a clear book(the holy Qur'aan)
Thats one clear verse from the Qur'aan which tell us that the Prophet
is noor. 
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Ya Ali Madaad!
We Shia Muslims are taught by our Ayatollahs that there is one hadith in which Prophet (pbuh) said that before he and Imam Ali were created by Allah from Divine Light before everything else.
Prophet said he and Imam Ali were created from same light. They are first of Allah's creation.
This is my belief.
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
Lol.. dont want to like be rude..
but everywhere it says the Prophet
was the first to be created from noor.. in Jannah, on every leaf, on every door, it says Muhammad (saw).. where has Hazarat Ali (ra) come from?
The Prophet (saw)'s status and Hazarat Ali's status are very very VERY different.. i dont understand why people of the Shia sect think Hazarat Ali is an equal of the Propeht (saw)..
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Who said Imam Ali is equal to Prophet?
Ayatollah rightly named America as "Great Satan".
www.presstv.ir
yep
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Err...
I'm not one to interpret, but couldn't that be taken to mean that the Prophet
'lights the way to Allah (swt)' by giving us guidance to live our lives by, not necessarily 'Divine Light'
By the way, I don't understand the difference between Noor/normal light.
Is there any? Surely all light is from Allah (swt), whether it comes from the sun or a pocket torch. Any info?
Don't just do something! Stand there.
the most comprehensive article i have come across on this isue is as follows, pls read all then comment. first remember ulema have ikhtilaaf on this issue.
good read:
http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/light_of_the_prophet_sall.htm
The story of when the prophet
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Hadhrat Adam (AS) when asking for forgiveness said to ALLAH swt that forgive me for the sake of Muhammad
If as you believe that imam ali where created in the same light and there names together surely hadhrat adam (as) would have said forgive me for the sake of muhammad(saw) and ali(ra)?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...
Funzo - stop it.
You are extremely sectarian.
But just to answer your question, read qur'an 7:12. There was a covenant made with all souls before our current "existence", so that indicated that souls already existed.)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
How so?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane, by those who couldn't hear the music...