Shaykh Sbeare

"yashmaki" wrote:

btw romeo and juliet were homosexual males so erm bad analogy for valentines day, can't say it kindles thgts of romance for me lol.

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no way

erm yes i remember my English lecturer telling me so at Uni. Back in those times tho shaky would have been hung for it so he changed the male character to a miss juliet, otherwise it would never have been published Wink

i disagree

he must have been shakespears critic - critics see sexuality issues everywhere :twisted:

i studied it at GCSE/A level

it was never pointed out - and even if I read between the lines i cant see it

it was the norm back then for men to play the role of females - but i dont think that suggests homosexuality

trust me there are lots of homosexual undertones in his works i can't have imagined them along with all the critics.... :?

I never did romeo and juliet until we got to uni and i liked the modern adaptation with dicaprio, however when the lecturer told me the above i changed my mind very quickly. now i can't get rid of the association.

i saw a modern adaptation in shaky theatre stratford they had guns and trucks instead of horses and swords it was so cool Dirol

at A level the homosexual undertone of OTHELLO was pointed out

it was sumtimes suggested that Shakespeare must be gay

but not R&J :shock:

in shakepeares time when those plays were acted out all the females characters were played out by young males who would wear wigs and gorls clothes, only because women were not allowed to act on stage in them days , i dont think there was any homosexaul messages intended

but i could be wrong , the whole shakepearean language sounds a bit gayish with all those thous and arts :?

ur wrong brother or is it sister, don't argue with moi Dirol

women weren't allowed to act in them days because acting was not seen as a "respectable" profession for women. It was on par with "prostitution". So those women who did manage to get on stage were viewed as low life, and they were exchanged as a material commodity no matter how credible their acting skills were.

nah shakespearan language is pretty cool once u get to grips with it, better than the ghetto tongue that is apparently called a "language"

its BRO Lol

i hate shakespeare , complete waste of time and shouldnt be thought at schools :!: :!: :!:

About the title, in the arabic they know shakespear as 'Shaykh Zubayr'.

Gentleness and kindness were never a part of anything except that it made it beautiful, and harshness was never a part of anything except that it made it ugly.

Through cheating, stealing, and lying, one may get required results but finally one becomes

Why not Shaykh Shabbir?

(No P in arabic.)

With the undertones could it be that originally women were banned from acting? Men would dress up as women to pay women's roles.

PS Shakespeare's work was the eastenders/Coronation Street of the time.

It was mass market entertainment.

Just imagine people 200 years from now writing essays on society based upon the happenings in Eastenders!

"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.

"Admin" wrote:
PS Shakespeare's work was the eastenders/Coronation Street of the time.

It was mass market entertainment.

Just imagine people 200 years from now writing essays on society based upon the happenings in Eastenders!

It's about how language has evolved, so they probably will, especially all this 'text' speak.

I only liked Romeo & Juliet of his. Studied The Taming Of The Shrew for GCSE, which was ok. Also Measure For Measure and another one which I can't even remember at A-Level - they were boring as hell and didn't really 'get' them. Some of his sonnets were really good though.

Imaani,

It sounds like you got a few difficult ones but you can't really knock Shakespeare. Macbeth, Hamlet, All's Well That Ends Well, South Park, Much Ado About Nothing, Lillle 0-1 Man Utd, The Tempest, Othello, Saturday Night Fever, A Midsummer Night's Dream, The Taming of The Shrew, As You Like It, Louis Armstrong, The Merchant of Venice, all brilliant. (ftr some argue the United match was actually Francis Bacon.)

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I didn't get that either, lol.

And read The Tempest as well. But still can't remember the other one.

If you want to get Shakespeare there's nothing like a good production. I highly recommend [url='s Park[/url] in the summer.

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shouldnt it be Sheikh-Sabr (patience)?

Someone once told me he was a Muslim.

Someone else once told me there was no 'one' Shakespeare, it was loads of people. (one or more of whom may have been gay I suppose).

Both people were talking rubbish, as everyone knows all the famous plays (Romeo and Juliet, Hamlet, Macbeth et al) were written by a team of monkeys with typewriters.

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This play recieved much lower gate receipts, but is considered by some historians as an absolute masterpiece...

Don't just do something! Stand there.

It's an old Bob Newhart gag, "To be or not to be, that is the gzzortnblat."

[size=10]The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.[/size]
[size=9]Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)[/size]