no coz then people will say you over-praising the prophet

and thats Biddah, and Shirk if u call on his help! :roll:

SO NO MILAD RAVES PEOPLE

except for this friday at VP

Salam

Holy Prophet Muhammed will be born on
12 April 2006 AD which will be on Wednesday 12 Rabi I 1426 MLC

Up North, we are all gearing for a big party.

One cannot find a greater Eid than Birthday of God's Messenger.

I hope all you guys enjoy this Sacred Islamic Festival.

**** [b]Peace Be Upon You O Muhammed And God's Blessings[/b] ****

Omrow

He will not be born then. He was born over 1400 years ago.

Lets try to keep things simple...

and noone can agree exactly what date. I think more are united towards the 9th of Rabbi Ul Awwal than on the twelfth.

i thought it was 12th rabbi ul awal

this saturday, are u coming victoria park? revival gona have a stall

Salam

Thats even better.

Lets have a 4 day party: On 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th.

I'm sure God will be very pleased to see all the merry making on birth of His Prophet.

Omrow

hmmmm......

Si dee.

ma name aint dee!! :twisted:

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

so to answer my opening post:
we just want to talk and argue about the same old stuff. milad, partying, naat, jaloos, bidah etc.....
nothing new, differenet, special, nothing to use this opportunity to highli8ght and promote the teachings of teh prophet to the non muslims, media etc...

ah well... i shouldnt be surprised

Personally, I think this year is different.

The cartoon issue has united the Muslims, I heard that Shaykh Abu Bakr Sudani was making dua for the one who made the cartoons because of the way it has made every Muslim stand up, defend His honour and commemorate this month.

Also, apparently this year is the first time for a very long time that even Saudi will be commemorating this occasion by going through the Seerah everyday this month.

And as usual this blessed month will be full of programmes, loads of Islamic radio stations…and inshallah a lot less sectarian bashing.

Lucky Angel will be present in the Mawlid programme in Pakistan which will be a Scholar get together incl the likes of Shaikh Tahir ul Qadri, Yusfuf Islam, Shaykh Abu Bakr Sudani and maybe Humza Yusuf.

Salam

Boss. Saying "party" is not a loose talk.

I can give you examples of some loose talk if you like ?

Anyway, I know that Wahhabis don't like us doing anything on Prophet's birthday. They don't even like us calling on him, or addressing him. They are heretics. Fanatics. Bigots. Crazy people. No love for the Prophet. I wonder how they would manage to cross the Bridge Seerat over Hell without the help of the Prophet. It is said that many will fall into the Fire.

How can having a party Prophet's honour give the Holy Festival a bad name.

Omrow

"Omrow" wrote:

No love for the Prophet.

Omrow, not celebrating the Mawlid does NOT indicate no love for the Holy Prophet (saw).

Salam

"MuslimSister" wrote:

not celebrating the Mawlid does NOT indicate no love for the Holy Prophet (saw).

Suppose there is a father who wants a son rather than a daughter.

Baby girl is born. He doesn't celebrate her birth.

Baby boy is born, He does celebrate his birth.

What does that indicate to you ?

Omrow

"Omrow" wrote:

What does that indicate to you ?

That he's a sexist dad.

Btw what if this daddy does not celebrate his son/daughters birth, BUT spends the rest of his life taking an intrest in his son/daughters life, gets to know them well, obeys/listens to whatever it is they say to him, often express's his love to them and sings their praises to all that would listen to him...

What does that indicate to you ?

that he is a great father and most lovign and is exactly what a father should be like.

showing love througout ur childs life is much better than just on birthdays.

i thought we wasn't even supposed to celebrate birthdays. that we should just be thankful of being alive everyday and that he's got u thru another whole year.

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

so to answer my opening post:
we just want to talk and argue about the same old stuff. milad, partying, naat, jaloos, bidah etc.....
nothing new, differenet, special, nothing to use this opportunity to highli8ght and promote the teachings of teh prophet to the non muslims, media etc...

ah well... i shouldnt be surprised

:?
ed, noones mentioned half the things you wrote up there. do u WANT us to discuss them or summat?
:?

Salam

Let me make it easier:

A father celebrates the birthday of his son but not of his daughter.

How will the girl feel about that; and why ?

Omrow

'Ed you are the only one that has mentioned Biddah.

I do not think things should as processions should happen in the uk.

Processions always have cultural connotations.

In the middle east, asia etc. they are used as celebrations.

Here in the UK such things only happen as a sign of protest.

So I am of the opinion the processions can be the wrong to do in the UK.

"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

so to answer my opening post:
we just want to talk and argue about the same old stuff. milad, partying, naat, jaloos, bidah etc.....
nothing new, differenet, special, nothing to use this opportunity to highli8ght and promote the teachings of teh prophet to the non muslims, media etc...

ah well... i shouldnt be surprised

boss, dusty is right - no-one has mentioned that except you!

and Mr Pessimistic - theres plenty of things happening, and whats wrong with some Jaloos' :o , some Naats and Zikr, gatherings - all ways of celebrating in an appropriate manner and focusing on the Prophet for an entire month!

there is no parying by the way :roll:

if any remain in doubt, please read this post and the next 2 in full........i know its long, but puts to end the debate. and if that doesnt do - i'll lend u 8 DVD set u can watch which goes into more explanation......

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[size=24]Legal Status of Mawlid[/size]

Part One
Introduction
This article will discus the legal and religious status of celebrating the birth of the Holy Prophet in light of the Qur’an and Sunnah. This is not a comprehensive guide since it is impossible to include all evidences in one article. For a complete and comprehensive discourse on the validity of celebrating mawlid-un-nabi it is recommended to refer Dr. Tahir-ul Qadri’s book, “Milad-un Nabi kee Sharee Haiseeyath”. This article however is an attempt to provide you with an insight to the topic and has been compiled from a series of lectures given by Dr. Qadri on this topic which are available to listen to and are highly recommended both in English and Urdu. However since this is a personal effort any mistakes that may occur in this compilation are mine alone thus I seek forgiveness from Almighty Allah for any errors that may occur. Part one of this article will discuss the evidences from the Holy Qur’an, part two of the article will give a commentary of leading aima on the subject and part three of this article will provide clear hadith’s that substantiate the legality of celebrating of the mawlid of the Holy Prophet (saw).

In the Holy Qur’an Allah Almighty gives a clear order to celebrate and rejoice the raising and coming of the Holy Prophet (saw). In Surah Yunus, (10:58) Allah Ta’ala states

“Say: Because of the( fadl) Blessings of Allah and His (rahma) Mercy you should celebrate (with happiness and pleasure). That is better than what (wealth) they amass.”

In this particular ayah Allah Ta’ala is commanding that we should rejoice and celebrate His fadl and rahma as much as is possible. The question naturally to be asked is what exactly should we be rejoicing. What does Allah’s fadl and rahma refer to? According to other verses in the Qur’an

(tafseer bil Qur’an) and the explanations given by scholars through their tafseer works of this ayah, the fadl and rahma in this ayah is a direct reference to the Holy Prophet (saw). He was sent to this world and being raised for mankind is the greatest fadl and rahma of Almighty Allah, so we should all celebrate and rejoice this event.

Tafseer-bil-Qur’an:

There are many verses in the Holy Qur’an where Allah Almighty states that the Holy Prophet is Allah’s rahma and fadl.

In Surah Al Imran, (3:164) Allah Almighty states:

“ Indeed Allah conferred a great favor on the believers when he sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad (saw)) from among themselves, reciting unto them His verses, and purifying them, and instructing them (in) the book and Al-Hikmah of the Prophet while before that they had been in manifest error”.

In the Holy Qur’an Allah mentions the raising of the Holy Prophet as a favour, coming to mankind and providing humanity with the right path. His coming took people out of darkness and misguidance bringing them to the light of guidance and Haq. Allah Almighty describes this as a great blessing by Him onto His people. Allah Ta’ala states that if it had not been for His beloved Prophet we would all have been in a state of loss. In this verse Allah Ta’ala uses the words fadl and rahma in the same sequence as in the verse of Surah Yunus thus denoting Allah’s fadl and rahma are the Holy Prophet. (saw).

In Surah Al-Anbiya, (21:107) Allah Almighty describes the Holy Prophet (Saw) as rahma

“ And We have sent you (oh Muhammad (saw)) but as a Mercy for Mankind”.

Here the Holy Prophet has been given the name of rahma, it being one of his attributes. Allama Alusi in his tafseer, ‘Ruhul Ma’ an’i states that one of the glorious names of the Holy Prophet is rahma even though his spriritual name is raheem.

It is stated in Surah Al-Jumu’ ah, (62:2)

“It is He who has sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger ( Muhammad (saw)) from among themselves, reciting to them His verse, purifying them, and teaching them the Book and Al-Hikama. And verily they had been in manifest error”.

Here Allah Almighty firstly gives a list of all the qualities of the Holy Prophet and how he has taken mankind out of darkness. It is through his raising that we received guidance since divine revelation was given through the Holy Prophet in the form of the Qur’an. He inculcated us with knowledge and belief, and through his Sunnah we learnt how to implant it in our hearts and how to purify our inner selves according the will and pleasure of Allah. If the Holy Prophet had not been sent to us by Allah Almighty then humanity would have remained misguided, in error and loss, and thus not be in position to receive anything from their Lord.

The first ayah addresses the people who lived in the time of the Holy Prophet (saw), being sent “from among themselves”. They were able to receive these great blessings direct from him sitting with him, conversing with him, observing and receiving much from him. However Allah almighty does not confine this blessing and mercy to those at the time of the Holy Prophet but states in the next ayah (62:3)

“And (He has sent him, Muhammad also to) others among them who have not yet joined them (but they will come). And He Allah is the Al-Mighty, the Wise.”

Allah Ta’ala confers his blessing not on only the Companions but on those who are yet to come. This is a reference to all future generations and is explicitly saying that the Holy Prophet was not just a fadl for those in his time but for all generations to come. Thus there is no limit on the time period of when to rejoice. One may ask how it is possible that those who never saw or heard the Prophet can still benefit from him? Yet that is up to Allah Ta’ala and His wish and desire since He completes the ayah by saying, “Allah is the Almighty and Wise”. He alone can do as He wishes and bestow what He wishes on whom He wants. There are no limits and boundaries on His power and if He wished for future generations to benefit from the fadl of the Holy Prophet then so be it. So Allah’s raising of the Holy Prophet is fadalalah.

After explaining the extent and nature of His beloved Prophet’s mercy, then Allah Almighty says in ayah 4 of surah Jumu’ah:

“That is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allah is the owner of Mighty Grace”.

“That is the Grace of Allah” is referring to the Holy Prophet (saw), for he is the ‘dhalika fadalulahi’ which has been described in ayah 2 and 3. His being sent to the unlettered peoples providing wisdom is the Grace of Allah. An important point to note here is that the words later on in the ayah, “Allah is the owner of Mighty Grace” are ‘walla dhul fadl’. This is a significant point since Allah is the lord of fadl but He Himself is not the fadl which some commentators incorrectly translate as. He is the Lord of the highest blessing, its owner, its bestowal, and its possessor. For instance if you are an author of a book you are not the book itself. Similarly Allah is sahibul fadl, its possessor. Allah is not the favor itself as that is separate from the bestower. Then who is fadl? The Holy Prophet is the fadl given in ayah 3 and 4. This is Allah’s bounty. The one who was raised by Him is the fadl. In Arabic grammar the compound nouns, muzaf and muzafilai are always different and can never be the same. For instance in the word rasoolalah, rasool is muzaf and Allah is the Muzafilai. So in the words Dhul fadl – fadl is muzaf and Allah is the muzafilai, thus there can be no doubt that the fadl referred to here is the Holy Prophet (saw).

In surah Al-A’raf, (7:156) it is stated:

“ ..My Mercy embraces all things. That (Mercy) I shall ordain for those who are Muttaqun, and give Zakat, and those who believe in Our evidences and signs”.

So Allah’s Rahma extends to all things, and he ordains this rahma on those who do right things, practice charity and follow the signs of Allah. So who are these people entitled to this rahama? Who will do these practices? Allah Ta’ala states in the next ayah it is those who follow My messenger, who have been sent to the unlettered people. He is the rahma sent to them.

Thus from the above discussion it can be seen that Allah Almighty has placed an ehsan, favour on us and in Surah Yunus we are expressly commanded to celebrate and rejoice this favour which is described as rahma and fadl. Other verses in the Holy Qur’an explicitly define this rahma and fadl as referring to the Holy Prophet thus celebrating his coming is a Divne command. The Holy Qur’an also singles out the birthday as an important event and worthy of mention. In Surah Maryam Allah tala commands us to send salaam on the day Sayyidina Yahya was born ie his birthday.

“And send salaam on him the day he was born, and the day he dies and the day he wil be raised up to life (again)” (19:15)

If the celebration of birthdays is an innovation and prohibited then why would Allah Ta’ala single out the birthday of Hadhrat Yahyah (a.s)? It is to be remembered that these are the words of Allah (swt) and He is the one who is sending salaam on to His messenger and clearly signifying his birthday as a peculiar and significant day.. If Allah Almighty is ordering mankind to convey these salaams on to Sayyidina Yahya (as) how can one say it is prohibited to do the same for the Holy Prophet on his birthday who is the last and greatest of all Prophets? A birthday is significant in that a day is singled out for collective worship. One type of salaam is salaam ul-aam, a general one and the other type salaam ul qass which is sent together collectively. Although we are encouraged to send salaat and salaam on the Holy Prophet every day, having one day in particular means a collective act of worship takes place which is always superior. Indeed salaam can also be viewed as a gift from Allah to His Prophets just as we give gifts to each other on our birthdays. The same commandment has also been given in respect of Sayyinia Isa (a.s) in Surah Maryam

“And send salaam on me the day I was born and the day I died and the day I shall be rasied alive” (19:33)

Part two of this article will discuss tafsir works of reliable and authentic leading aima with particular reference to Surah Yunus, (10:58).

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part 2.....

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Part Two
To substantiate and elaborate the Qur’ anic verses mentioned in part one, the tafsir works of reliable and authentic leading aima will be discussed in part two of this article, with particular reference to Surah Yunus, 10:58.

Imam Alusi in “Ruhul Ma’ ani”, (vol.2 pg 141) interprets Surah Yunus, (10:58) by quoting a statement of Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abass (r.a.d) an expert on tafsir. He states that the word fadl in surah Yunus means ilm, knowledge, and is a reference to the Holy Qu’ran. Since this ilm came about as a result of the means of the Holy Prophet who received this Divine revelation, Hadrat Ibn Abass (r.a.d) states that the rahama Allah Almighty refers to in the ayah is the Holy Prophet himself. In conclusion he says the coming and raising of this rahma in the form of the Holy Prophet is an occasion to be celebrated. The Holy Qur’an also singles out the birthday as an important event and worthy of mention. In Surah Maryam Allah tala commands us to send salaam on the day Sayyidina Yahya was born ie his birthday.

“And send salaam on him the day he was born, and the day he dies and the day he wil be raised up to life (again)” (19:15)

If the celebration of bithdays is an innovation and prohibited then why would Allah Ta’ala single out the birthday of Hadhrat Yahyah (a.s)? It is to be remembered that these are the words of Allah (swt) and He is the one who is sending salaam on to His messenger and clearly signifying his birthday as a peculiar and significant day.. If Allah Almighty is ordering mankind to convey these salaams on to Sayyidina Yahya (as) how can one say it is prohibited to do the same for the Holy Prophet on his birthday who is the last and greatest of all Prophets? A birthday is significant in that a day is singled out for collective worship. One type of salaam is salaam ul-aam, a general one and the other type salaam ul qass which is sent together collectively. Although we are encouraged to send salaat and salaam on the Holy Prophet every day, having one day in particular means a collective act of worship takes place which is always superior. Indeed salaam can also be viewed as a gift from Allah to His Prophets just as we give gifts to each other on our birthdays. The same commandment has also been given in respect of Sayyinia Isa (a.s) in Surah Maryam

“And send salaam on me the day I was born and the day I died and the day I shall be rasied alive” (19:33)

joiced by all. Imam Alusi then gives many other authorities who quote this same tafsir of Hadrat ibn Abass, including Imam Katir Baghdadi and Ibn Sakir, all whom say rahma is the Holy Prophet

Imam Jalaludin Suyuti in “Adurul Mansur fil Tafseer” (vol. 4 pg. 330) also quotes Hadrat ibn Abass and says fadl is ilm, referring to the Holy Qur’an and rahma is the Holy Prophet (saw).

Imam Abi Hayan Andulusi in “Tafseer ul Bahrul Muheet” (vol. 5 pg. 171), a great scholar of the 7th and 8th century states the same tafseer of Hadrat ibn Abass (r.a.d) through his famous student Tabil as does Imam Bahaiqui.

Imam ibn Jawzi in “Zadul Maseer” (vol.4 pg. 40) gives various meanings for these two words and implications. He states that although they have different meanings we need to see what it refers to in the context of this verse when Allah has asked us to rejoice. He again gives the same reference of the tafsir of ibn Abass.

Imam Tabrasi, a great Imam of tafseer from the 6th Century in “Majamual Bayan” (vol. 5 pg. 177-178) gives an explanation of this ayah. He comments that in reality Allah is stating to His Prophet that tell those who rejoice of things of the dunya, if they want to rejoice something then they should rejoice in Allah’s fadl and rahma, that has been bestowed and sent upon them. He says there are two things to be celebrated, the revelation of the Holy Qur’an which is Allah’s fadl and the raising of the Holy Prophet who is the raama. He also quotes Qutada and Mujahid students of Hadrat ibn Abass (r.a.d) as well Imam Bakr who all state the same

Earlier in part one, in Surah al- Jumu’ua, it was shown how Allah Almighty, after praising the Holy Prophet and listing his qualities, addresses mankind and states had it not been for the raising of the Prophet man would have remained in error and it is this raising that is the rahma and grace of Allah.

“That is the Grace of Allah, which He bestows on whom He wills. And Allah is the owner of Mighty Grace”. (62:4)

“Dalika fadulal” the Grace of Allah has been taken to refer to the Holy Prophet by many scholars of Islam too. In the tafseer of Hadrat ibn Abass (Tanveer ul Miqbass pg 471), ibn Abass gives various meanings to this ayah and in one he includes the meaning of fadalil adheem as being the Holy Prophet since the Qur’an was revealed on to him.

In his tafseer work “Al – Jalalain”, Imam Suyuti says, regarding the words dhalika fadulal, Allah’s fadl means the Holy Prophet and whoever came with him

In the tafseer of Imam Khazin, “lababal tawayl fee ma’anal thanzeel” (vol. 4 pg. 265) under Surah Al- Jumu’ua verse 4, Allah’s fadl is that He sent His beloved Prophet to us and that is a great favor upon us.

Imam Alusi in Roohul Ma’ani (juz 28, pg. 94 – 95) says dhalika fadalul azeem is an indication towards the Holy Prophet who came to the unlettered people of this world.

Imam Mahmood Nasafi in his tafseer “Madarak al thanzeel aw haqiaq al thawail” (vol. 4 pg 198) states the coming of the Holy Prophet in this world and being a prophet for all times and centuries is the fadlulah, the Grace of Allah. Even though future generations will not see him they are entitled to come under the blessing of falyafrahoo. This is reiterated in by Imam Zamakshari in his tafseer work “Al-Kashaf” (vol. 4 pg. 530)

Imam ibn Katheer in his “Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Adheem” (vol. 4 pg. 364) uses similar words, that the fadl referred to in the verse is the coming of the Holy Prophet to the ummah and whatever is revealed to him for his ummah is the fadl of Allah Almighty.

Imam ibn Jawzi in “Zad-al-Maseer” (vol. 8 pg. 260) says the Holy Prophet’s coming down to mankind and being raised is the fadl referred to in Surah Al-Jumu’uah. This is also reiterated by Abu Hayan Andulusi in his tafseer works (vol. 8 pg. 265) as well as Shaykh Thantavi Jawhari, a modern Egyptian scholar in his book “Al Jawahir fee Tafseer ul Qur’ an” ( juz 24 pg 174-175)

Shaykh Ahmed al Mustafa al Maraghi in his “Tafseer al Maraghi” (vol.10 pg. 96) states Allah’s great fadl upon mankind is the sending of His beloved Prophet (saw), who is the sanctifier and purifier of all, providing us with the light of guidance.

Imam Tabrasi in his tafseer work “Majmul Bayan” (vol.10 pg 429) also says Allah Almighty has said sending His Prophet for now and the future is Allah’s fadl upon us.

Thus it is clear from numerous works of great classical and modern scholars the fadl and rahma referred to in the Holy Qur’an is indeed a direct reference to our beloved Prophet and thus the commandment in Surah Yunus to celebrate the Mercy of the Holy Prophet is a direct divine commandment to celebrate the mawlid of the Holy Prophet (saw). Part three of this article will discuss different Hadiths that substantiate this view.

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Part Three
There are many Hadiths that provide clear evidences for the legality of celebrating the birth and raising of the Holy Prophet (saw).

First Hadith:
It is reported by Hadrat Abdullah ibn Abass that the Holy Prophet had migrated to Madina and saw the Jews were fasting on 10th Muharram, “yawme ashura”. He asked them why they fasted on that day. They replied that this was a spiritual and righteous day, a blessed day since on this day God gave Bani-Israel liberty and independence from firown, Pharaoh. The Holy Prophet then said “if you are fasting on a day when Musa received success on this day (liberation from firown and his tyrannical government) then I am more closer to Musa than you. I have a better right than Musa over you. So I will fast on the same day due to this success, due to Allah’s blessing on him.” So the Holy Prophet ordered his Companions to begin to fast on the day of Ashura.

Sahih Muslim, Book 6, Ch. 19 Hadith no. 2518, 2520.

This is Hadith is also contained in Sahih Bukhari, (vol. 7, Kitab-al-Sawm, Ch. 29, Hadith no.2157 and also in Kitab al Anbiya Ch. 24; in the Muwatta of Imam Malik, Kitab-al-Siyam, Hadtih no. 28; in the Musnad of Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal – vl. 2;as well as by Imam Asqalani who gives many references in his book “Fath al Bari”, Vol. 4, pg. 245-249.

This Hadith creates the juristic principle that is permissible to celebrate a blessing of Allah Almighty even if it is celebrating an event that took place on a particular day and in this case the blessing conferred onto the people was their liberation from firown through the means of their Prophet, Hadrat Musa (a.s). When the Holy Prophet heard the answer of the Jews, he did not rebut their celebration, nor did he say it was not permissible to celebrate such a day. Instead he commented that the Muslims had a greater right to celebrate and thus asked the Muslims to fast on this day too.

It is clear from this Hadith that if the day of Ashura was made blessed due to Hadrat Musa (a.s) and the Jews celebrated it out of gratitude to him and Allah, then surely the day that the Holy Prophet was made rahmatalil alimeen should also be celebrated by us. Hadrat Musa (a.s) came just for the bani-israeil but Allah Almighty sent His mercy, in the form of the Holy Prophet to liberate the whole of mankind from all burdens. The birth of the Holy Prophet came as a liberation from every kind of tyranny, cruelty and suppression. It was the day of the birth of justice and the establishment of haq, truth and righteousness. So how can we possibly resist in rejoicing and thanking Allah Almighty for His Mercy on this day.

This same Hadith is narrated again in Sahih Muslim, Kitab-ul-Sawm, Book 6 – Hadith. no.2528. Ibn Abass is again the reporter of this Hadith but in this narration he says the Jews, in answering the Holy Prophet’s question said they held this day with great esteem and regard, so they fasted on the day of Ashura out of respect and reverence, known as th’azeem. If this is the case then does not the day of the raising and birth of Allah’s Prophet deserve respect and reverence? If we can respect the day Hadrat Musa (a.s) liberated the Jews then we can surely respect and revere the day the seal of the Prophets was born.

It is sometimes argued that since the Jews celebrated the day of Ashura through keeping a fast, any celebration based upon this Hadith should thus be done just by fasting. Critics argue that in modern times Muslims celebrate the Milad-un-Nabi as an Eid which has no base in the Sunnah and has its roots in the Asian sub-continent. This however is an erroneous view. The Jews did not celebrate this day just through fasting. This is merely one of the acts that they did. Moreover even if they had only fasted on this day this still cannot detract from the fact that an event took place which was considered a blessing from Allah Almighty and the Holy Prophet made this blessing worthy of being commemorated, so much so that he made it a part of his Sunnah.

In actual fact the Jews celebrated this day in many ways. The day of Ashura was celebrated as an Eid and considered a great event where even the women were given beautiful dresses and jewelry to wear. In another Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Kitab-al-Sawm, Bk. 6, Hadith no. 2522 Abu Musa (Allah be pleased with him) reported:

“The day of 'Ashura was one which the Jews respected and revered and they treated it as an Eid. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: You also observe fast on this day.”

In another Hadith of Sahih Muslim, Kitab-al-Sawm, Bk. 6, no. 2523, Abu Musa (rad) reported:

“The people of Khaibar (most of them were Jews) observed fast on that day of 'Ashura and they treated it as an Eid and gave their women ornaments and beautiful dresses to wear. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: You observe fast on this day.” (Also in Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2005)

What is interesting is that the Holy Prophet did not question the celebration of the day as an Eid. He understood why they celebrated the day as an Eid and accepted this fact. He did not question the celebrations or even criticize the buying of new clothes and jewelry, nor did he prohibit the Companions from doing the same or confined them to just fasting. The reason is that this day was already a day of Eid and an accepted fact by all. It was not only the Jews but the Makkans themselves who celebrated this day as an Eid before the migration. This was not similar to the Eid of Shariah, but similar to it in respect of the act of celebration. Imam Asqalani, in “Fathi-al-bari” (vol.4 p.245 ) stated that this was the day when the Ka’abah was first dressed and so the Makkans celebrated this day as an Eid. The Holy Prophet and the Companions were already celebrating this out of reverence and respect due to the ancient history involved. Imam Asqalani also quotes Abu Hurairah (rad) who says that this was the day of Sayyidina Nuh’s boat landing on the mountain of Judi, and thus celebrated for this reason too. That is why the Holy Prophet did not ask about the Eid festivities but asked regarding the fast. It was only when the Jews began to criticize the Muslims later on did the Holy Prophet ask the Companions to increase their fasts to one day before and one day after. By basing his arguments on this Hadith, Imam ibn Hajar Asqalani establishes the legality of the Mawlid un Nabi, concluding:

“from this, we learn to perform the act of thankfulness to Allâh, the Most High on a certain day for a bounty He has bestowed or a disaster He has averted. And that act has to be repeated on the same day every year (anniversary). And thankfulness to Allâh, the Most High is done with different kinds of `ibâdât (acts of worship) like sujûd (prostration), fasting, giving charity and recitation (of the Qur'ân). And what bounty is greater than the bounty of the coming of the Prophet peace and blessings of Allâh be upon him, the one who is the Prophet of Mercy on that day?"

Imam Jalaludin Sayuti in “Al Hawi lil Fatawa” (Vol. 1 p. 302) also wrote a full fledged Risala on the Malwid.

Second Hadith
The Holy Prophet also specified his own birthday in the same way. In a Hadith narrated by Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him), he reports that Allah's Messenger was asked about fasting on Monday, whereupon he said: “It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me.” Sahih Muslim, Bk 6, Number 2606.

This Hadith is also reported in by Imam Bahayqi in his “Susnan ul Kubra” (vol. 4, pg. 300 Hadith no 8182, 8259), in the “Sunan” of Imam Nisai and the “Musnad” of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal.

It is clear from this Hadith that the Holy Prophet was very happy about the day of his birth and so fasted out of gratitude. Fasting is a form of worship, so one can celebrate this day by any form of ibada. One can fast or hold gatherings or provide food to the poor, all being acts of worship.

Third Hadith
The third Hadith is regarding a dream seen by the Uncle of the Holy Prophet, Hadrat Abass (rad).

Before the birth of the Holy Prophet (saw), his father, Hadrat Abdullah (rad) had already died, so a lady slave called Thwaiba was sent to Hadrat Aminah’s house for her help and service. Upon the birth of the Holy Prophet Thwaiba came running to Abu Lahab, the Prophet’s uncle, to give the good news of the birth of his nephew. Abu Lahab became extremely happy and raising two fingers pointed to Thwaiba saying “ I free you in thankfulness of the birth of my nephew”. That day was a Monday. When he died he came in the dream of Hadrat Abass (rad) who asked him how he was fairing in the life after death. Abu Lahab replied: “I am in the fire of hell day and night and have no escape except Monday. The punishment is reduced for me and from these two fingers of mine I receive water from which I drink (like a fountain) for I freed Thwaiba on the birth of the Holy Prophet (saw).

This Hadith is in the Sahih of Imam Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Nikah who quotes this from his own Shaykh, Imam Abdul Razzaq who was the student of Imam e Azaam, Abu Hanifah (ra). It is also quoted by Imam Ibn Asqalani in “Fath al bari”, Hafiz Ibn Kateer, Imam Bahaiqui, Imam Sohaili, Imam Baghawi, Imam Qurtubi, Imam Jawzi, Imam Mullah Ali Qari, and Imam Abdul Haq Muhaddith Delhvi (ra).

Abu Lahab was an infidel and one of the greatest enemies of Islam having been cursed in the Holy Qur’an too. Yet despite this he was still was given a favour and benefit from his act. It thus stands to reason that if a man such as Abu Lahab can be blessed then surely those Muslims who celebrate the Milad will receive manifold blessings too.

Unfortunately many people use different arguments to criticize this Hadith. Firstly some critics have argued that since it is an Islamic principle that a pious act done by a kafir is not rewarded in the Hearafter how can Abu Lahab benefit? Imam Razzaq discusses this subject in his “Musanaf” (vol 7 p. 478) as does Imam Abdul Haq Muhaddith Delhvi (ra). They state that this is the qisays of the Holy Prophet and an exception just reserved for him. Imam Ibn Kateer in “Seerat un Nabawiyyah” (vol. 1 pg 224) states this is because of the fadl and kirama of Holy Prophet who is given this exception and is reiterated by Imam Suyuti, Imam Shaybani, Ibn Hashim and Imam Baghawi too. Moreover in a Hadith of Sahih Bukhari the Holy Prophet states that his uncle, Abu Talib will benefit from his intercession which is again part of the ‘qisayse muhammadiyy’

A second criticism leveled at this Hadith is that the event has been narrated in the form of a dream and so loses some of its integrity. This again is not a valid point. This Hadith has been accepted by Imam Bukhari in his Sahih who is one of the greatest muhaddith of Hadith so we cannot object to it. If this dream was not to be accepted then why did he bother to accept it? Moreover this is a narration of Hadrat Abass (rad) and if had considered the dream as unimportant then he too would not have narrated it and rejected it as insignificant. Both of these great men as well as the other scholars mentioned earlier all considered the Hadith as authentic and used it in arguments pertaining to the legality of the Mawlid.

A third criticism is that Hadrat Abass had this dream when he was a not a Muslim and he is quoting something said by another non-Muslim thus querying its authenticity. Again this is not a valid critique. When we take this Hadith as evidence that celebrating the birth of the Prophet is rewarded , the base of this argument has no link with the aqueeda of Abu Lahab and the information he gives. The evidence is based on the narration of Hadrat Abass (rad). If he was not a Muslim at the time of the dream, he was a Muslim when he reported it! It is part of the Usool of Hadith, legal and juristic principles, that the narrator of Hadith must be a Muslim. Hadrat Abass narrated this dream in his capacity as a Companion of the Holy Prophet whilst living in Madinah.

Fourth Hadith
Those critics who argue that only the two Eids of Shariah should be celebrated are also in error.

In a Hadith of Sahih Bukhari, (Kitabl-al-Iman, Ch. 34, Hadith n.45) a Jew quoted a Quranic verse to Hadhrat Umar (rad) (‘today we have completed your Deen for you and have chosen the Deen of Islam for you’) and said had such a verse been revealed to us in our Torath we would have celebrated that day as an Eid day. In this statement there is an implicit question addressed to Hadhrat Umar (rad) asking why the Muslims did not celebrate this day as an Eid too. Hadhrat Umar (rad) replied: ‘we know which day and which place this verse was revealed on to the Holy Prophet (saw). The day of this revelation was Arafat – yawm al-hajj and that was a Friday’.

On this answer Imam Asqalani raises a question. He states that a doubt can emerge in ones mind that the question was not answered satisfactorily. The Jewish man wanted to ask why this day had not been celebrated as an Eid and the answer should have been given in same way – ie we do celebrate it as an Eid or that there are only two Eids in Islam and other Eid celebrations are prohibited. However the answer given by Hadrat Umar (rad) does not appear to address the question directly, merely informing the Jew the day upon which the verse was revealed. Imam Asqalani then answers his own question and comments that when Hadhrat Umar (rad) mentioned the day of Hajj and Friday, in fact he was impliedly saying is that we already celebrate this day as an Eid since yawm-al-hajj is one of the Eid’s of Shariah and every Friday, Jumma, is also considered an Eid for Muslims too. He did not reply that celebrating something as an Eid is confined just to certain named days but merely said we already have celebrations on this day. Moreover the Jew did not question again and ask for clarification but kept quiet indicating he understood.

It is thus established from this Hadith that if a verse containing good tidings revealed on to the Holy Prophet is worthy of being celebrated as an Eid then why cannot the day that the Prophet came to this world be celebrated too?

Imam Thirmidhi also reported a similar event from two narrators, Hadrat Tariq and Abdullah ibn Abass (rad). The first narration in “Kitab Tafseer ul Qur’an” (ch 6, n 3043) is similar to the one in Sahih Bukhari. However the second Hadith, (n. 3044) is narrated by Ibn Abbass (rad) and related by him. He states he recited these verses from Surah Al-Maidah and a Jewish man who was standing near him commented that had this verse been revealed on to them (the jews) they would have adopted this day as an Eid. Hadrat Ibn Abass (rad) replied, endorsing the idea, saying the Muslims have already made it as a day of two Eids. These verses were revealed on Jumma and on the Day of Arafat meaning the Jews would have celebrated it as one Eid but we celebrate it as a double Eid. Those who argue that we cannot use the word Eid for celebrations are also incorrect since Hadhrat Ibn Abass (rad) says ‘eidain’ in the Hadith and refers to Friday as ‘yawm-ul-eid’.

The words yawm-ul eid are also contained in a Hadith of Sunan Abu Dawood, (Kitab al Salat, Ch. fadlal yawm al jummah, Hadith no.1043). Here the Holy Prophet said the Ummah should read as much salaam and darood on him on a Friday in particular, as this is the day of the creation of Sayyidina Adam (a.s), the birth or kalq of a prophet being yawm ul eid. The Companions then asked if it would be possible that the salaam reaches him after his demise? He replied in the affirmative saying Allah has forbidden the earth and land to eat the bodies of the Prophet’s.

So if Friday has been singled out as a special day being the day of creation of Sayyidina Adam (a.s), in other words the birthday of the first prophet of Islam, then surely the birthday of the last prophet should can also be singled out as an Eid.

In another Hadith in the “Sunan” of Imam Nisai (vol. 1 n.1666 pg. 519, vol.3 pg. 91) the Holy Prophet said we should fire bakoor in mosques as it is the Milad day of Sayyidina Adam (a.s) and the day of darood for me. (see also the “Sunan” of Imam Ibn Maja vol.1, pg. 385 n.1085). Bakoor is a special incense that is lighted and releases a beautiful smelling fragrance. Elsewhere the Holy Prophet has also said that on the day of Jumma one must first bathe and wear clean clothes, and then send darood on him collectively. Sayyidina Umar also appointed a man to perfume the mosques every Friday. (“Sunan” Imam Abu Dawud Hadith n.1666)

Fifth Hadith
The Holy Prophet himself celebrated his Milad. In a Hadith narrated by Hadrat Anas (rad) contained in the Sunan of Imam Bayhaqi, (v.9 p.300 no. 43), (also mentioned by Imam Tabrani, Imam Zahbi, Imam Asqalani in ‘fath ul bari’, and Imam Haythimi) states that the Holy Prophet sacrificed some animals and did an aqia for himself after the announcement of his Prophethood. Imam Suyuti, commenting on this Hadith states that this was not an aqia done in the traditional sense since his grandfather Abdul Muttalib had already done the aqia of the Holy Prophet seven days after his birth. Since it is not possible to repeat an act of shariah once it is already done, ie one cannot repeat their prayers once they have already been performed, Imam Suyuti states that the reason for the sacrifice of the animals was an act of thankfulness and a celebration done by the Holy Prophet for his birth. The Holy Prophet was thanking Allah for his status as rahmta li lalimeen. Imam Suyuti finally concludes it is mustahab (advisable) for us to celebrate the mawlid in ijtima (collectively) since the Holy Prophet sacrificed animals and distributed the food and thus we too should have a gathering and distribute food and rejoice in a good manner (‘Husn Maqsid fî `Amal-il mawlid by Imâm Jalâl ad-Dîn Suyûtî, pp. 64-6).

Some critics may argue that since the Holy Prophet’s orginal aiqa was done in the period of jahliyyah he wanted to repeat the aqia to ensure its proper performance. However this is not a valid argument since if acts those acts of shariah performed in the time of jahliyyah needed to be repeated then many why were other similar acts not repeated by the Holy Prophet (saw)? Why for example did he not repeat his nikah to Hadrat Khadija (rad) which was originally done 15 years prior to Prophethood? The nikah had been read by his unlce Abu Talib and the mahr was paid by him too.

[color=red][b]Thus it is clearly evident that the mawlid of the Holy Prophet has its origins and roots in the Holy Qur’an and Sunnah and is a celebration that all Muslims should eagerly rejoice in. [/b][/color]==============================================

ed cracks me up, he look like he desperate for a agrument on this thread. Anyway, this thread is so common and the point have been cover many a time. To me the main question on the Mawlid is the word "celebrate". That where my issue are. Because i see people quote loads of hadiths on the subject but they are very broad and don't really specifically mention the Mawlid in the context that it celebrated today.

Fasting and Charity is mention in the hadiths but these are act that really should be carry out all year round, we also know that the Prophet saw was a mercy and we should count our blessing. But, Marching, Massive Lungar, Bad Mouthing Other Muslims, Naats and what not :? .

I seen people do Mawlid and when it done right it a very humbling experience but in the majority we don't do the occasion justice.

Basically what i think is that Mawlid is celebrated alot more today by muslims to compensate for the fact that we are bad muslims all year round IMO. In a sense we becoming like the Christian, where Friday jummah a must like Sunday Church is. Then we have Ramadan and Mawlid like Christmas and Easter time.

I kid you not, I seen it loads of time, when Mawlid come people will sit and listen to the speaker big them up for celebrating Mawlid, but when the time for prayer come, convinently it time for a smoking break outside, or to get some fresh air or get a bite to eat, but when the lungar is serve, i swear there seem to be twice as much people there then throughtout the day, but at the same time these are teh people who will big it up loads as well. :roll:

Personally if Mawlid is to be celebrated, what i like to see is literature, event for non muslims, stalls in the middle of town centres, instead of the Marches where we have the old men shouting out Pakistan Zindabad and things in Urdu, causing massive Traffic Jams and just general nuisance to the non muslims. IMO if you going to celebrate Mawlid just do it, don't get into agrument with other and try proving to the rest of the world why you right in doing so, just like the people who don't celebrate should do as well. There are loads of graet scholars in the past and present who do celebrate it and who haven't celebrated it.

To be honest i not either for Mawlid or against it, if there a decent event i will attend. I just don't agree with the way it celebrated and teh attitude that goes with it as well by many, even though as i said many people do it right and these people are the people you normally feel draw to as well, due to the fact they very humble in the way they do it, in their heart you know the prophet and his way of life live in them, whether they seem to celebrate Mawlid or not, inshallah that how i would like to be one day as well.

Interesting article, agree with alot it says

http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/dmawlid1.htm

The first para of that article is enough for me.

Quote:

In an age and time when Muslims are being attacked by the enemies of Islam from every angle possible, to debate and talk about something which is a non-issue (yes, a non-issue), such as “celebrating the Mawlid” is doing injustice to ourselves.

Salam

"Beast" wrote:

The first para of that article is enough for me.

For a muslim to assert that things about the Prophet are of
no concern whatsoever shows a high level of
stupidity. In fact, its rank hypocrisy.

To establish whether or not God is angry with those who
refuse to honour the Prophet on this Blessed of Milad ought to be
of utmost concern to every muslim who claims to follow Muhammad.

Omrow

Don't twist my words Omrow.

Not your words my Beast. I was refering to the words at which you pointed.

OK. You're not twisting my words but you do seem to be misrepresenting the words in the article to which I pointed.

"Omrow" wrote:

For a muslim to assert that things about the Prophet are of
no concern whatsoever shows a high level of
stupidity. In fact, its rank hypocrisy.

I'm sure that's not what the author meant.

"Omrow" wrote:

To establish whether or not God is angry with those who
refuse to honour the Prophet on this Blessed of Milad ought to be
of utmost concern to every muslim who claims to follow Muhammad.

Deobandis do 'honour' the occasion. But, among other things, they say that it should not be made compulsory to attend Milad events.

Salam

This is what the man from Leicester had to say about the Blessed Festival:

Quote:

a non-issue (yes, a non-issue)

Its clear what he meant.

Omrow

salaam,

when u say ur celebrting the birth of the prophet pbuh what are you celebrting? bcz on the day he was born he was also taken away from us on that day? so are u celbrting his death or birth?

once a companion ask rasoolallah can we celbrate birthdays he sed no. he only sed ur allowed to celbrte the 2 eids. he nevr mentioned that u can celbrte my brith or anything else. and why pick a day or a month to clebrte the birth of the beloved? shudnt everyday then be a celebration? and is ther any hadiths to state whether if the propher celbrted his birthday or if any of the companions celebrted it? cz if they didnt why shud we?