Submitted by yashmaki on 14 February, 2006 - 15:31 #121
but Paladin....neither me or the rest of my family eat chapattis much, we tend to have rice a lot.
Me and my siblings tend to have one traditional asian dish with rice once a day, and one western type meal home made, once a day. So i duno where the problem lies. And we don't use ghee or butter, unless it's an Eid meal.
Obviously with my elders they tend to stick to their traditional curries and rice for every meal, cept breakfast. Now that can't be good for you coz they don't balance it with leafy salads or a bowl of veg. One thing i've noticed 90% if not all asian households will never have a salad bowl in sight. When my dad first saw me eating salad with rice, he laughed. He said you've turned into a white girl, all you eat is salad, and steamed veg. I said :roll:
Few weeks later he's always asking me to make him some :roll: Our lot need to be educated on a balanced diet. Fruit is also lacking. Although there's always lots in the house no one bothers to eat it unless someone prepares it for them :roll:
I think i have a pretty good diet, but that doesn't mean i'm safe from diabetes or other illnesses, there's only so much you can do to protect yourself, nothing is fullproof.
Submitted by Dave on 14 February, 2006 - 15:34 #122
Well that was an interesting night. Shortly after posting that at 5am everything took a fast downhill turn - couldn't breathe hallucinations, so my roommate called security and they called 911.
Get this - apparently you can be [u]allergic[/u] [i]to medicine[/i]
I thought it was food poisoning but apparently I was having a rather violent reaction to a decongestant the infirmery gave me yesterday.
I got a shot stayed at the Hospital for an hour or two and BAM i'm back in business.
Never really had that much experience with allergies - but i'm definitely not interested in having one again, these things hit ya like a freight train and disappear just as fast.
Weird...
Submitted by yashmaki on 14 February, 2006 - 15:38 #123
yeah a lot of ppl are allergic to penicilin and other drugs, that's why docs always ask you if you're alergic to it before they inject you. I'm like erm how do i know if i'm allergic to it, never had it before, we'll have to wait and see, then i can hold you liable
This gives you an insight to how those people with allergies live their lives...
Submitted by *DUST* on 14 February, 2006 - 16:01 #125
"Augustus" wrote:
Well that was an interesting night. Shortly after posting that at 5am everything took a fast downhill turn - couldn't breathe hallucinations, so my roommate called security and they called 911.
Get this - apparently you can be [u]allergic[/u] [i]to medicine[/i]
I thought it was food poisoning but apparently I was having a rather violent reaction to a decongestant the infirmery gave me yesterday.
I got a shot stayed at the Hospital for an hour or two and BAM i'm back in business.
Never really had that much experience with allergies - but i'm definitely not interested in having one again, these things hit ya like a freight train and disappear just as fast.
Weird...
:shock: gosh that sounded scary...
glad to hear ur ok Dave.
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Submitted by 100man on 14 February, 2006 - 16:05 #126
Glad you're better.
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Submitted by star on 14 February, 2006 - 16:11 #127
"yashmaki" wrote:
One thing i've noticed 90% if not all asian households will never have a salad bowl in sight. When my dad first saw me eating salad with rice, he laughed. He said you've turned into a white girl, all you eat is salad, and steamed veg. I said :roll:
Few weeks later he's always asking me to make him some :roll: Our lot need to be educated on a balanced diet. Fruit is also lacking. Although there's always lots in the house no one bothers to eat it unless someone prepares it for them :roll:
Thats true...i've noticed us asians hardly have the salad and the fruit typa diet with our meals.....in my house salad is a must when my dads home lol , other than that its invisible. Same goes for the fruit ...it will be there in the house but hardly gets eaten. If it comes prepared on the table then we'll go for it, other than that cant be bovered.
As for white rice thats common in bengalis innit. We all love white rice and curry but we have it like 1nce a week.
Submitted by yashmaki on 14 February, 2006 - 16:17 #128
yeah rice.
i think i'm part of a different generation though. i like rice and curry once a day, but for supper i prefer a non indopak dish. It can be hassle preparing it coz with asian food curry can be made to last for supper or even the next day. But english meals, italian, east african, etc etc are best eaten on the day. left overs just don't taste the same the next day.
Anyone had somalian food before, i;ve had it a few times love it.
but Paladin....neither me or the rest of my family eat chapattis much, we tend to have rice a lot..
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't make it clear in my earlier post but the principles for flour also apply to rice...
Basically, people of the word get their carbohydrates from three main sources:
Wheat, rice or potatoes – for these are the richest sources of carbohydrates where
Flour contains more carbohydrate than Rice,
which contains more than potatoe,
which contain more than most other vegetables.
Again with rice, brown rice is better than white rice.
So although rice isn’t as carbohydrate rich as flour, overeating any carbohydrate, coupled with an inactive lifestyle will make an individual susceptible to diabetes...
However, let us remember that carbohydrates are the best source of energy that we can get.
That is why the various cultures of the world centre their diets around one of three great sources of carbohydrates.
Paradoxically that which was the best source of energy and carbohydrate i.e. bread (in biblical times it was sometimes the only food served at mealtimes), rice and potatoes are now the worst of foods for the inactive lifestyle; which the modern world creates.
Our lifestyles have become more sedate and so our diets must also be changed...
However your attitude to your diet, yashmaki, is excellent; steamed vegetables give you all the nutrients and carbohydrates that you need with hardly any of the risk. You hit the nail on the head when you said 'balanced diet'. This is what people should aspire to, rather than 'This is the food we’ve always eaten and so we’re gonna carry on eating it and more so' – we can see where this attitude is taking others to…
Don't let others put you off when you know you are doing the right thing!
You have a wise head and a caring heart...and may all tasks be made easy for you and for all righteous people.
May peace be blessed upon you.
—
Docendo Discimus
Submitted by Dave on 15 February, 2006 - 01:56 #131
Yikes! Thanks guys!
lol Yashmaki you are so right - the doctor was basically telling me in the hospital that there are so many different kinds of drugs its impossible to test for them, so for the most part you find out once you have an allergic reaction!
...that's a comforting thought...
Submitted by You on 15 February, 2006 - 01:59 #132
There is something I do not understand about allergies... especially nut allergies...
If they were natural, would not everyone who had the allergy been dead, not allowing the allergy to be carried forward?
I do not think in the past people would have been so careful having sealed food processing rooms just to avoid contamination by nuts...
so how do they arise?
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
poor thing prob has to do so much laundry n cooking n cleaning thats why he's cominh on here less
do tell us what u cook tonight
Submitted by You on 16 February, 2006 - 20:05 #135
I am gonna go for 'Lassi' curry.
Just need to get ingredients.
Not much has really changed in life. i used to do most things myself anyway. The only change is cooking.
For the last two days I cheated. Yesterday I got someone else to cook, as I got back from work at around 10ish. The day before it was takeout day.
I will keep everyone informed of this experiment.
One thing though. Its bliss not being nagged all the time!
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
One thing though. Its bliss not being nagged all the time!
NORMAL ppl dont like being on their own :roll:
i get depressed and feel lonely when I'm home alone-more so when mum aint home
ur a weird loner Mr Admin
Submitted by star on 16 February, 2006 - 20:12 #137
"MuslimSisLilSis" wrote:
NORMAL ppl dont like being on their own :roll:
what ! i love being on my own......
I look forward to being home-alone, i can do what i like when i like.
its cool.
Submitted by 100man on 16 February, 2006 - 20:14 #138
Depends what you like really.
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Submitted by Mez on 16 February, 2006 - 20:28 #139
"Admin" wrote:
I am gonna go for 'Lassi' curry.
Just need to get ingredients.
Not much has really changed in life. i used to do most things myself anyway. The only change is cooking.
For the last two days I cheated. Yesterday I got someone else to cook, as I got back from work at around 10ish. The day before it was takeout day.
I will keep everyone informed of this experiment.
One thing though. Its bliss not being nagged all the time!
Ahhhh!!! I totally feel sorry for you!!!
My sympathy goes out to you!!
—
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
Submitted by You on 16 February, 2006 - 20:37 #140
Well I just got off the phone getting the recipe, and how to make it.
Lets just say my confidence has taken a downturn.
I got a rough guide, but the proportions can easily be messed up.
Steps:
1. Make Tarqa (throw some garlic in some oil, and brown).
2. Add basaar, salt and chilli. How much of each? it'll have to be pot luck. Good thing I have a very high tilerance of chilli...
3. Make lassi separately, add some flour, and add to mix.
4. Start again as it'll all go horribly wrong.
A successful run should take about 20-30 mins I think...
Lets hope its ready by 10 as it should be. I am gonna watch House. (Dunno why I like it. I normally can't similar telly. Its all wrong. But I like it...)
(and LilSis I gave plenty of warning that I was gonna cut down the time I sopend on here...)
[EDIT]
Mez? why?
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"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Seraphim on 16 February, 2006 - 20:40 #141
lol,
Your wathing House... as in that Doctor program??
I watch that.
Its good... dont know why.
—
Back in BLACK
Submitted by Mez on 16 February, 2006 - 20:42 #142
"Admin" wrote:
Mez? why?
Cause you have to do all the cooking and cleaning etc....
tut tut!
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Your damn right!
Submitted by You on 16 February, 2006 - 20:43 #143
I know.
It's illogical.
I do not like Casualty, or those american ones.. the name has exscaped my mind, I do not like CSI, 24 or any other similar things.
But I like house.
I should not like it. Its deeply flawed. why is there ONE case every episode? and why does it follow the typical patern of getting worse, and then at the end its two rarecombined diseases?
albeit they are focussing more towards the interactions of a loner atm...
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Mez on 16 February, 2006 - 20:44 #144
"Admin" wrote:
I am gonna watch House. (Dunno why I like it. I normally can't similar telly. Its all wrong. But I like it...)
Oh yeh him and dad definatly watch it! :roll:
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Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
Submitted by You on 16 February, 2006 - 20:45 #145
"Mez" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
Mez? why?
Cause you have to do all the cooking and cleaning etc....
tut tut!
I do the cleaning anyway! (well when I can be bothered. which is the same now. Noone to inspect. So when i get bored I clean up. it was the same way at uni. when I got bored I would wash all the dished that had piled up over the past week or so... for everyone in the flat, then clean the kitchen, then the corridor, then my room...)
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Mez on 16 February, 2006 - 20:51 #146
"Admin" wrote:
"Mez" wrote:
"Admin" wrote:
Mez? why?
Cause you have to do all the cooking and cleaning etc....
tut tut!
I do the cleaning anyway! (well when I can be bothered. which is the same now. Noone to inspect. So when i get bored I clean up. it was the same way at uni. when I got bored I would wash all the dished that had piled up over the past week or so... for everyone in the flat, then clean the kitchen, then the corridor, then my room...)
Yeh I have to clean the kitchen when my mum is not home in the evening and has to go to some sewing class, she makes the dinner before she goes but then I have to wash the dishes and clean the kitchen (I just did a min ago) .
My mum does not like dirty dishes lying about in the kitchen and washes it straight away she sees it.
—
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
Submitted by Dave on 16 February, 2006 - 20:58 #147
I've been eating the weirdest collection stuff all day... pancakes a sausage onion and pepper sub, fried zucchini planks and ranch a ham sandwhich and mint chocolate chip ice cream...
and now for no apparent reason calamari is sounding really good
Anybody ever have one of those days?
Submitted by Seraphim on 16 February, 2006 - 20:59 #148
"Admin" wrote:
I should not like it. Its deeply flawed. why is there ONE case every episode? and why does it follow the typical patern of getting worse, and then at the end its two rarecombined diseases?
albeit they are focussing more towards the interactions of a loner atm...
lol, but they almost always mistake it for Cancer... and are about to operate when he realises that its NOT cancer. :roll:
i think i watch it for Dr Houses one liners... he's soo cinical in a funny way.
—
Back in BLACK
Submitted by You on 17 February, 2006 - 01:20 #149
Ok how did it go?
well not too bad.
either I put in too much 'basaar' or not enough Lassi... so it was slightly strong. I also lobbed in a few chillies... which would probably be overkill for most other people...
Apart from that all fine.
Watched House as I said. They ruled out cancer straight away.
I liked the way everything did not end perfectly. The only other time this happened I think was when he 'killed' a baby to find out what was going on...
I like it when they do not take easy options.
(For that reason I loved Battlestart Galactica, but in season two I can see some places where the writers have chickened out... which is disappointing considering its the best thing on tv atm...)
—
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Submitted by Mez on 17 February, 2006 - 11:34 #150
"Admin" wrote:
(For that reason I loved Battlestart Galactica, but in season two I can see some places where the writers have chickened out... which is disappointing considering its the best thing on tv atm...)
Oh yeh I remember, we used to watch BattleStar Galactica, ages ago!!
—
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
but Paladin....neither me or the rest of my family eat chapattis much, we tend to have rice a lot.
Me and my siblings tend to have one traditional asian dish with rice once a day, and one western type meal home made, once a day. So i duno where the problem lies. And we don't use ghee or butter, unless it's an Eid meal.
Obviously with my elders they tend to stick to their traditional curries and rice for every meal, cept breakfast. Now that can't be good for you coz they don't balance it with leafy salads or a bowl of veg. One thing i've noticed 90% if not all asian households will never have a salad bowl in sight. When my dad first saw me eating salad with rice, he laughed. He said you've turned into a white girl, all you eat is salad, and steamed veg. I said :roll:
Few weeks later he's always asking me to make him some :roll: Our lot need to be educated on a balanced diet. Fruit is also lacking. Although there's always lots in the house no one bothers to eat it unless someone prepares it for them :roll:
I think i have a pretty good diet, but that doesn't mean i'm safe from diabetes or other illnesses, there's only so much you can do to protect yourself, nothing is fullproof.
Well that was an interesting night. Shortly after posting that at 5am everything took a fast downhill turn - couldn't breathe hallucinations, so my roommate called security and they called 911.
Get this - apparently you can be [u]allergic[/u] [i]to medicine[/i]
I thought it was food poisoning but apparently I was having a rather violent reaction to a decongestant the infirmery gave me yesterday.
I got a shot stayed at the Hospital for an hour or two and BAM i'm back in business.
Never really had that much experience with allergies - but i'm definitely not interested in having one again, these things hit ya like a freight train and disappear just as fast.
Weird...
yeah a lot of ppl are allergic to penicilin and other drugs, that's why docs always ask you if you're alergic to it before they inject you. I'm like erm how do i know if i'm allergic to it, never had it before, we'll have to wait and see, then i can hold you liable
Wow. How scary Dave. :?
I'm glad you had a really quick recovery.
This gives you an insight to how those people with allergies live their lives...
:shock: gosh that sounded scary...
glad to hear ur ok Dave.
[size=9]I NEVER WORE IT BECAUSE OF THE TALIBAN, MOTHER. I LIKE THE [b]MODESTY[/b] AND [b]PROTECTION[/b] IT AFFORDS ME FROM THE EYES OF MEN.[/size] [url=http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/Dust.html]Dust, X-Men[/url]
Glad you're better.
[size=9]Whatever you do, know that I will always love you. Or else.[/size]
Thats true...i've noticed us asians hardly have the salad and the fruit typa diet with our meals.....in my house salad is a must when my dads home lol , other than that its invisible. Same goes for the fruit ...it will be there in the house but hardly gets eaten. If it comes prepared on the table then we'll go for it, other than that cant be bovered.
As for white rice thats common in bengalis innit. We all love white rice and curry but we have it like 1nce a week.
yeah rice.
i think i'm part of a different generation though. i like rice and curry once a day, but for supper i prefer a non indopak dish. It can be hassle preparing it coz with asian food curry can be made to last for supper or even the next day. But english meals, italian, east african, etc etc are best eaten on the day. left overs just don't taste the same the next day.
Anyone had somalian food before, i;ve had it a few times love it.
I'm like that too.
I love salad and fruit, and know how good it is for me...but cos of laziness I usually only eat it when its placed in front of me. :?
Salaam yashmaki,
Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't make it clear in my earlier post but the principles for flour also apply to rice...
Basically, people of the word get their carbohydrates from three main sources:
Wheat, rice or potatoes – for these are the richest sources of carbohydrates where
Flour contains more carbohydrate than Rice,
which contains more than potatoe,
which contain more than most other vegetables.
Again with rice, brown rice is better than white rice.
So although rice isn’t as carbohydrate rich as flour, overeating any carbohydrate, coupled with an inactive lifestyle will make an individual susceptible to diabetes...
However, let us remember that carbohydrates are the best source of energy that we can get.
That is why the various cultures of the world centre their diets around one of three great sources of carbohydrates.
Paradoxically that which was the best source of energy and carbohydrate i.e. bread (in biblical times it was sometimes the only food served at mealtimes), rice and potatoes are now the worst of foods for the inactive lifestyle; which the modern world creates.
Our lifestyles have become more sedate and so our diets must also be changed...
However your attitude to your diet, yashmaki, is excellent; steamed vegetables give you all the nutrients and carbohydrates that you need with hardly any of the risk. You hit the nail on the head when you said 'balanced diet'. This is what people should aspire to, rather than 'This is the food we’ve always eaten and so we’re gonna carry on eating it and more so' – we can see where this attitude is taking others to…
Don't let others put you off when you know you are doing the right thing!
You have a wise head and a caring heart...and may all tasks be made easy for you and for all righteous people.
May peace be blessed upon you.
Docendo Discimus
Yikes! Thanks guys!
lol Yashmaki you are so right - the doctor was basically telling me in the hospital that there are so many different kinds of drugs its impossible to test for them, so for the most part you find out once you have an allergic reaction!
...that's a comforting thought...
There is something I do not understand about allergies... especially nut allergies...
If they were natural, would not everyone who had the allergy been dead, not allowing the allergy to be carried forward?
I do not think in the past people would have been so careful having sealed food processing rooms just to avoid contamination by nuts...
so how do they arise?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
mum makles steamed veg for lunch sumtimes
steamed fish, brocoli, sprouts, potatoes, carrots n beans
it is SO BLAND
Mr Admin-hows lonely life treating u?
poor thing prob has to do so much laundry n cooking n cleaning thats why he's cominh on here less
do tell us what u cook tonight
I am gonna go for 'Lassi' curry.
Just need to get ingredients.
Not much has really changed in life. i used to do most things myself anyway. The only change is cooking.
For the last two days I cheated. Yesterday I got someone else to cook, as I got back from work at around 10ish. The day before it was takeout day.
I will keep everyone informed of this experiment.
One thing though. Its bliss not being nagged all the time!
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
NORMAL ppl dont like being on their own :roll:
i get depressed and feel lonely when I'm home alone-more so when mum aint home
ur a weird loner Mr Admin
what ! i love being on my own......
I look forward to being home-alone, i can do what i like when i like.
its cool.
Depends what you like really.
[size=9]Whatever you do, know that I will always love you. Or else.[/size]
Ahhhh!!! I totally feel sorry for you!!!
My sympathy goes out to you!!
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
Well I just got off the phone getting the recipe, and how to make it.
Lets just say my confidence has taken a downturn.
I got a rough guide, but the proportions can easily be messed up.
Steps:
1. Make Tarqa (throw some garlic in some oil, and brown).
2. Add basaar, salt and chilli. How much of each? it'll have to be pot luck. Good thing I have a very high tilerance of chilli...
3. Make lassi separately, add some flour, and add to mix.
4. Start again as it'll all go horribly wrong.
A successful run should take about 20-30 mins I think...
Lets hope its ready by 10 as it should be. I am gonna watch House. (Dunno why I like it. I normally can't similar telly. Its all wrong. But I like it...)
(and LilSis I gave plenty of warning that I was gonna cut down the time I sopend on here...)
[EDIT]
Mez? why?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
lol,
Your wathing House... as in that Doctor program??
I watch that.
Its good... dont know why.
Back in BLACK
Cause you have to do all the cooking and cleaning etc....
tut tut!
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
I know.
It's illogical.
I do not like Casualty, or those american ones.. the name has exscaped my mind, I do not like CSI, 24 or any other similar things.
But I like house.
I should not like it. Its deeply flawed. why is there ONE case every episode? and why does it follow the typical patern of getting worse, and then at the end its two rarecombined diseases?
albeit they are focussing more towards the interactions of a loner atm...
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Oh yeh him and dad definatly watch it! :roll:
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
I do the cleaning anyway! (well when I can be bothered. which is the same now. Noone to inspect. So when i get bored I clean up. it was the same way at uni. when I got bored I would wash all the dished that had piled up over the past week or so... for everyone in the flat, then clean the kitchen, then the corridor, then my room...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Yeh I have to clean the kitchen when my mum is not home in the evening and has to go to some sewing class, she makes the dinner before she goes but then I have to wash the dishes and clean the kitchen (I just did a min ago) .
My mum does not like dirty dishes lying about in the kitchen and washes it straight away she sees it.
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
I've been eating the weirdest collection stuff all day... pancakes a sausage onion and pepper sub, fried zucchini planks and ranch a ham sandwhich and mint chocolate chip ice cream...
and now for no apparent reason calamari is sounding really good
Anybody ever have one of those days?
lol, but they almost always mistake it for Cancer... and are about to operate when he realises that its NOT cancer. :roll:
i think i watch it for Dr Houses one liners... he's soo cinical in a funny way.
Back in BLACK
Ok how did it go?
well not too bad.
either I put in too much 'basaar' or not enough Lassi... so it was slightly strong. I also lobbed in a few chillies... which would probably be overkill for most other people...
Apart from that all fine.
Watched House as I said. They ruled out cancer straight away.
I liked the way everything did not end perfectly. The only other time this happened I think was when he 'killed' a baby to find out what was going on...
I like it when they do not take easy options.
(For that reason I loved Battlestart Galactica, but in season two I can see some places where the writers have chickened out... which is disappointing considering its the best thing on tv atm...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Oh yeh I remember, we used to watch BattleStar Galactica, ages ago!!
Who is the cat of the Forum? MEZ!
Your damn right!
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