"An eye for an eye

RI_RS —

Makes the whole world blind"

And "two wrongs don't make a right"

As i understand it though, I think the Shariah 'says' that if someone murders a loved one you're entitled to get revenge?

I'm not sure. But i've also read that any Shariah punishments including 'Hadd' penalties i think they're called, are cancelled out by repentance. Is this true?

Discuss (politely) in terms of Islam.

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You — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 13:06

[quote=MakeMeRawr_7TeenF]Discuss (politely) in terms of Islam.[/quote]

yes ma'am.

The penal system punishments are called "Hudood" punishments (or hadd in the singular, but mostly people refer to the plural.).

Hudood I think means "limits".

From the top of my head, the word limits can take a meaning from one of two occasions/situations:

1. The person has crossed the limits set by shariah and thus is liable for punbishment, or
2. The punishments are the limits of what can be sought in rederss.

or maybe it is from something else.

The basic idea is that eg in cases of murder, the punishment is such that the matter is closed and people do not continue taking retribution after the case by additional killings etc.

Unlike say, the UK law, where "the crown" or the state is the one who demands justice, in the Islamic system, in cases of crimes (so rights of the people as opposed to rights pertaining to God) the courts and the state are a means of enforcement while the person demanding it is the person who has been injured, or in the case of death, the family of the person killed.

What can be asked for is equivalence to the original crime (which is different from revenge which can ask for much more), or lenience can be shown to the extent of no punishment being given.

I am not sure if this applies equally in all situations though - in the case of the hand being chopped off for theft, does the person stolen from have to ask for it or is this punishment separate to and above returning the stolen goods?

s.b.f — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 13:12

Is the Shariah law the same law that the Prophet ﷺ and people in his time followed?

Does it ever change to suit the era that people go through?

You — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 13:16

yes and no.

"Shariah law" is the application of a set of principles derived from the qur'an and sunnah.

The sources do not change but people can use them to have differing applications.

More, new crimes require a renewed look at the sources to find adequate redress/application.

s.b.f — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 13:19

I don't know much about the shariah law at all.

If anything, I have only heard negative things...media..from the wrong people possibly.

Do you think the Shariah Law is fair?

RI_RS — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 15:25

[quote=Funzo]An eye for an eye makes the whole blind..[/quote]

Ghandi said it

You — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 15:27

That is only the case if half the world decides to poke out the other half of the worlds eye, and then the other half get their dues.

However, if justice will be swift the people considering poking peoples eye out may think twice before doing so, in effect leaving there overall less people with an eye missing. (it may even create some empathy because someone carrying out some physical crime will also be aware that he/she may experience the same thing...)

and yes, I think justice can be a scary thing.

/thinks too much some times.

Funzo — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 15:52

[quote=MakeMeRawr_7TeenF][quote=Funzo]An eye for an eye makes the whole blind..[/quote]

Ghandi said it[/quote]
ghandi stole it off me...

RI_RS — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 15:57

[quote=Funzo][quote=MakeMeRawr_7TeenF][quote=Funzo]An eye for an eye makes the whole blind..[/quote]

Ghandi said it[/quote]
ghandi stole it off me...[/quote]

So you believe it's true?

Funzo — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 - 16:11

[quote=MakeMeRawr_7TeenF][quote=Funzo][quote=MakeMeRawr_7TeenF][quote=Funzo]An eye for an eye makes the whole blind..[/quote]

Ghandi said it[/quote]
ghandi stole it off me...[/quote]

So you believe it's true?[/quote]
I think its quite catchy 🙂