'Christmas is the pathway to hell':
Muslim lawyer's extraordinary rant at 'evil' celebration
By Liz Hazelton, Daily Mail - 10th December 2008
A Muslim lawyer has launched an extraordinary rant against Christmas, branding the celebration 'evil'.
Hate preacher Anjem Choudary claimed the festival was the 'pathway to hell' and urged his followers to boycott it.
'In the world today many Muslims, especially those residing in Western countries, are exposed to the evil celebration Christmas,' he raged in a sermon broadcast on the internet.
'Many take part in the festival celebrations by having Christmas turkey dinners.
'Decorating the house, purchasing Christmas trees or having Christmas turkey meals are completely prohibited by Allah.
'Many still practise this corrupt celebration as a remembrance of the birth of Jesus.
'How can a Muslim possibly approve or participate in such a practice that bases itself on the notion Allah has an offspring?
'The very concept of Christmas contradicts and conflicts with the foundation of Islam.
'Every Muslim has a responsibility to protect his family from the misguidance of Christmas, because its observance will lead to hellfire.
'Protect your Paradise from being taken away - protect yourself and your family from Christmas.'
His comments were condemned by Robin Tilbrook, chairman of the English Democrats, who branded them 'nonsense'.
'You really start to wonder why the people behind this want to be in Britain in the first place,' he said.
'Why live here if that's how you feel?
'It's an extremely narrow-minded, jihadist, anti-Western viewpoint. It's such a backwards take on things.
'The ironic thing is Islam recognises Jesus as a leading prophet, and Christmas is based around him.
'I'm happy for these people to spout nonsense like this because it just shows them up for what they really are.'
Fanatic Choudhary, 41, who is chairman of the Society of Muslim Lawyers, is the right-hand man of exiled preacher Omar Bakri Mohammed.
His family lives on £25,000-a-year benefit handout while he has gained notoriety as a firebrand speaker lauded by extremist groups.
In the past he has demanded the execution of the Pope, organised mass demonstrations against the publication of cartoons which allegedly insulted Mohammed and urged Muslims to have more babies to take over the UK.
Choudary's comments about Christmas come as councils were told by ministers to focus more strongly on tackling violent extremists
In speeches in London, both Communities Secretary Hazel Blears and Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said there needed to be a greater emphasis on 'confronting' the 'sharper end' of militant ideology, including directly targeting extremist leaders.
They said that it was no longer sufficient for councils to focus on promoting improved community cohesion while radicals were allowed to operate unhindered.
The ministers added that inaction risked allowing extremists to target the young and other vulnerable individuals and warned that some local authorities could lose funding if they failed to adopt a more robust approach to tackling radicalism.
Neither minister criticised any local authority directly,
But recent cases such as the revelation by the London Evening Standard that a speech by Omar Bakri Mohammed was broadcast during a meeting in a hall hired from Tower Hamlets council, have highlighted concerns.
In her speech, Ms Blears said that many councils had already engaged in positive work, such as training imams in English.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1093414/Christmas-pathway-hell-M...
Its really saddening to see the small proportion of misguided Muslims celebrating xmas. Is Eid not enough for them that they choose to participate in a non Muslim practices.
As were on the subject of xmas are we allowed to give out xmas cards? I got my first one today and i only want to give one back out of courtesy NOT because i celebrate xmas.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Go ahead.
If you are still uncomfortable, "seasons greetings" is harmless, but it may offend some people for being too politically correct.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
I have actually given them in the past to friends and teachers but year it got me thinking.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
No there wouldnt. Its just about being courteous and showing kindness and tolerance. I dont see how its encouraging xmas though becuase if ALL Muslims stopped giving cards and presents then it doesnt mean to say ppl who do celebrate it will think its wrong or stop celebrating it.
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
I would think it similar to the discussion we had in the Jumma mubarak thread - greeting people of other religions how they greet us. That is allowed.
The only times it would not be is if there is a doubt to over your own faith. IE if the only ones who participated in an act were of a strict religious nature.
Saying that I cannot remember ever giving anyone a christmas card. I may have as a kid, but I cannot remember it.
(then again, I have not done that with birthday, eid or other occasions cards either...)
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
Would it be wrong if the muslim familty decided to carry out "secret santa" between the siblings?
Or is that just showing sibling love?
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
yeah I agree with that. So I never do anything special for anyone.
:badgrin:
No, the reason I mentioned that is I saw that happen last year and I am trying to understand the why of it.
The only other reason I can think of is "foreign culture envy".
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone'" - David Cameron, UK Prime Minister. 13 May 2015.
But cant celebrating birthday be seen as you being happy that your sibling is one year closer to dying and being reunited with their Lord? :doubt:
I only give presents coz its tight if you dont plus i will never hear the end of it nag nag nag :roll:
you would lol
No not the gum drop buttons! – Gingy
Omrow, you do know Anjem Choudary isn't HT, don't you?
Hehe that's funny. Are you being a bad influence on christmans?
My family have always celebrated Christmas, even though they are not in the slightest bit religous.
But since my mum always remembers about Eid, I think it's only polite I go to buy halal turkey so we can eat together as a fam-er-lee.
And Omrow needs to stop reading Daily Mail.
Who are the 'English Democrats'? What makes them think they have any knowledge or understanding to label anything 'jihadi'?
Don't just do something! Stand there.
we always have an xmas lunch...
LOL!!!
yehhh sure Allah (swt) wrote in the Qur'aan - 'Those who have christmas dinner or cook turkey.. b warned! it is prohibited!'
Astagfirullahhh...
Gunnahhh...
Biddahh...
Shirkkkk!
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
oh man u should have come to the uni talk today! guy was a hardcore... i walked out half way! zaki came!
Crap!! yehh i rang her and her mum told me!
i didnt even know about emm!
kasmai i wudha stud up and started debating and arguin wid him LOL
next tym lemmi know!
If you desire Allah to be persistent in granting you the things you love,, be persistent in doing the things that he loves - (Imaam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)
Zaki? You mean Zakir Naik? What did he say?
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
LOL
sit in the same room as zakir naik? no chance
zaki smurfs mate
Salam
Anjum is a clown.
He hates the day Jesus was born. And yet he calls himself a muslim!!
Somebody please inform the idiot that Jesus Christ was a Prophet of muslims as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3699565/Muslim-lawyer-Anjem-Choud...
Last time I checked he was.
Omrow
Check again.
Not really, he's not perfect but he's 50 times better than many.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi
Just as muslims have crazy people like HT and Salafis,
others societies have their nutters too, some even in the parliament!
Gene Wilder thinks the West is on a holy Crusade. Many muslims would agree with him.
Also:
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=17765
http://ca.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSTRE4BD1F820081214
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1228728196542&pagename=JPost%...
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128861
Because it makes us feel that they UNDERSTAND us. Which isn't something that can be said for all scholars.
“Before death takes away what you are given, give away whatever there is to give.”
Mawlana Jalal ud Din Rumi