"TheRevivalEditor" wrote:

[b]WOULD YOU WORK FOR THE BRITISH SECRET SERVICE?[/b]

maybe I already do???

never.

nft

i think spying on other Muslims is haram isn't it?

I'm not sure if it makes a difference what the context is.

Isn't it even haram to pretend you're someone else?

You can help your country and fight the 'bad guys' without having to work for the MI5.. Personally, i dont think my conscience would let me.. i really dont like the idea of lying, deceiving and spying on anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim..

I would like to do that but i dislike the idea of lying and the secrecy, its totally against islam.

Would I get a double "O"? and an Aston Martin?

For Queen and Country people, Queen and Country.

Well you got a double zero at the begining of your iq they might give you that for your name to
as for the aston martin, well how does a second hand ford mondeo sound?

A decent job, decent money, a place where you can make a difference.

Ofcourse id take it.

What about the constant lying, spying on other muslims etc?

"Funzo" wrote:

What about the constant lying, spying on other muslims etc?

What about it?

Surely thats going against islam or your commiting sin for it.

I absolutely love spooks, so if it’s anything like that, then of course I’d take the job!

Well you obviously wouldnt start off like that; the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

"Funzo" wrote:

Surely thats going against islam or your commiting sin for it.

Its better to be in a position where you can make a difference and save many. Than it is to remain ignorant and powerless. Without power your no use to anyone.

"Funzo" wrote:

the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

That can be said for pretty much everything. If you've got the skills etc, I don't see why you can't work from the top.

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

"Funzo" wrote:

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Because that may not interest you, duh.

"Funzo" wrote:

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

"Noor" wrote:

"Funzo" wrote:

the idea is pretty cool but the things that come with can be drawbacks.

That can be said for pretty much everything. If you've got the skills etc, I don't see why you can't work from the top.

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Funzo" wrote:

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

"Funzo" wrote:

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Funzo" wrote:

Then why not go in politics? or even a normal police officer?

Politics is a dirty game and i dont want to get into it.

the police are a mere tool... nothing more than grunts. My asperations are a little higher.

Wouldnt be a m15 agent a dirty game too?

The lines are more clearly drawn.

Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

"Funzo" wrote:

Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

Can I ask for a reference for where it says we are not allowed to spy on Muslims? (and Muslims only.)

I have heard this a lot ("But you will spy on a Muslims..."), but have no idea where it is founded from. I would have assumed that the first bit was the problem, not the second.

I guess what I am asking is why is it worse to spy on Muslims than Non-Muslims.

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Funzo" wrote:

Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

You think im slow? i dont understand? i understood alright, think about it, it doesnt matter if its dirtier or not. I do take into account there isnt an easy way into politics where m15 agent for asians is pretty easy. If i research this and see that islam does approve of this i might take it up.

"You" wrote:

Can I ask for a reference for where it says we are not allowed to spy on Muslims? (and Muslims only.)

I have heard this a lot ("But you will spy on a Muslims..."), but have no idea where it is founded from. I would have assumed that the first bit was the problem, not the second.

I guess what I am asking is why is it worse to spy on Muslims than Non-Muslims.

O you who believe, you shall avoid any suspicion, for even a little bit of suspicion is sinful. You shall not spy on one another, nor shall you backbite one another; this is as abominable as eating the flesh of your dead brother. 49:12

"Funzo" wrote:

"Seraphim" wrote:

"Funzo" wrote:

Look i dont want this to sound rude but your starting to talk utter rubbish, lines are more clearly drawn?

let me put it more simpler.

its a less dirty game than politics.

Thats all you need to know.

You think im slow? i dont understand? i understood alright, think about it, it doesnt matter if its dirtier or not. I do take into account there isnt an easy way into politics where m15 agent for asians is pretty easy. If i research this and see that islam does approve of this i might take it up.

You think getting into mi5 is easier?

You're right... your not slow. Your just not moving at all.

I grow tired of this.

Well the level of influence in politics; a local councillor isnt really going to change nation wide views is he? Where as the m15 can help by preventing crimes on a large scale. So it probably is easier compared to a high authority politcal job compared to a low m15 job.

You think Mi5 is considered to be a 'low job'?

Tune into Spooks tomorrow, BBC 1, 9pm sharp

I didnt say it was a low job; i said a low level in m15, you cant get right at the top level straight away like in spooks can you now.